Colin Kaepernick explains why he sat during national anthem

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  1. OverDrive

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    Not 'funny,' as most ppl have made no "personal sacrifice" for their country during their life time!
     
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    Yeah I'm sure they would be willing to lose their job for getting him hurt.
     
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    Then it should not bother you if those people wipe their ass with the flag since they don't know "personal sacrifice"
     
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    brutal sport, football.
     
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    For their health, just dont do it in front of ME!
     
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    How sad. People shouldn't make a religion of patriotism.

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    We all make a sacrifice - a heft one, really - to the IRS every year :p
     
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    47% of "us" dont......:salute:
     
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    The plot may be thickening:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/263994/114m-quarterback-sits-out-national-anthem-protest-mark-tapson

    $114M QUARTERBACK SITS OUT THE NATIONAL ANTHEM TO PROTEST BLACK OPPRESSION
    "There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”
    August 29, 2016 Mark Tapson 2
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    Controversy arose over the weekend when San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick sparked outrage by remaining seated on the bench during the playing of "The Star-Spangled Banner" at the beginning of Friday night's loss to the Green Bay Packers. Why did he sit out the national anthem, while the rest of his teammates and coaches stood? Well, it wasn't because he was conserving energy for the game. Instead, by sitting he was taking a stand against America’s white supremacy.

    After the game Kaepernick, the half-black adopted son of white parents (his real father was “out of the picture” before he was even born to a destitute white mother), told NFL.com,

    “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”

    Needless to say, this galling explanation went over like a lead balloon with sports fans, who generally like their superstar athletes to display a more patriotic humility and gratitude. This was not the first time he has sat out the anthem this preseason, but the news exploded over the weekend and lit up social media. Commentators and Twitterers pointed out to him that this oppressor nation voted in a black President twice (and would probably vote him in again if not for the 22nd Amendment). They reminded him that this land of opportunity allowed him to rise to his rare, privileged position to the tune of a $114 million contract, not including lucrative endorsements. Kaepernick, it seemed, has a rather unique definition of oppression.

    Adding fuel to the rumor fire was word that the quarterback, who grew up Protestant and has a Bible quotation tattoo, may have quietly converted to Islam very recently due to the influence of his girlfriend/possible fiancée Nessa Diab, a radio DJ who is being described as a “Black Lives Matter activist.”

    Kaepernick was unfazed by the angry reaction and never gave notice to anyone on the team of his intention:

    "This is not something that I am going to run by anybody. I am not looking for approval. I have to stand up for people that are oppressed. ... If they take football away, my endorsements from me, I know that I stood up for what is right."

    No word about losing any endorsements yet, but apparently the 49ers aren’t going to relieve him of all that unbearable oppression by letting him go. The 49ers released a statement in which the management basically washed its hands of the controversy:

    The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose to participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthem.



    “No one's tried to quiet me,” Kaepernick said Sunday at his locker,

    “and, to be honest, it's not something I'm going to be quiet about. I'm going to speak the truth when I'm asked about it. This isn't for look. This isn't for publicity or anything like that. This is for people that don't have the voice. And this is for people that are being oppressed and need to have equal opportunities to be successful. To provide for families and not live in poor circumstances.”

    Kaepernick intends to press the point every time the anthem is played prior to a game. “When there's significant change and I feel like that flag represents what it’s supposed to represent, this country is representing people the way that it’s supposed to, I’ll stand.” Meanwhile he’s happy to be a lightning rod for national outrage about his disrespect of the Stars and Stripes:

    “I think there's a lot of consequences that come along with this. There's a lot of people that don't want to have this conversation. They're scared they might lose their job. Or they might not get the endorsements. They might not to be treated the same way. Those are things I'm prepared to handle.”

    One of the issues he wants to see addressed before he shows respect is police brutality. “There's people being murdered unjustly and not being held accountable. People are being given paid leave for killing people. That's not right. That's not right by anyone's standards.” In Kaepernick’s mind, if blacks are killed by (white) cops, it must be because the latter are racist murderers being protected by racist accomplices in The System. It couldn’t possibly be because those blacks might have given the cops reason to suspect their lives were in danger by, say, assaulting the officers or reaching for a weapon.

    Contrast Kaepernick’s petulant gesture with the respect shown the flag by American track and field athlete Sam Kendricks, who is also a U.S Army reservist. Kendricks was sprinting down the lane in an attempt at the pole vault in the qualifying round earlier this month when he realized our national anthem was playing. Kendricks stopped on a dime, dropped his pole, and stood at attention. Similarly, Jamaican Usain Bolt, the world’s fastest man, recently interrupted a live television interview to show his respect for “The Star-Spangled Banner” – and he’s not even an American citizen.

    If Kaepernick truly cared about the circumstances of black Americans, he would stand for the America flag, which represents the freedom and equal opportunity that this country offers to all, and against the BLM agitators he is implicitly supporting – racist, anti-capitalist, Marxist militants who don’t give a damn about black lives unless they can be exploited to stoke a race war. He would stand as a proud symbol that blacks in America are free to do and become anything they work hard for, including wealthy and powerful. He would stand against the Democratic party, which also doesn’t give a damn about the black lives it has locked into government dependency for the last 60 years. He would stand alongside such black, patriotic successes as surgeon Ben Carson and former athlete Michael Jordan (who took heat from Black Lives Matter for donating $2 million to charities working to improve police-community relations) as men who love this country and manage to work toward positive change without disrespecting the flag. He would stand as a role model for young blacks who can aspire to something other than joining a gang or rapping about killing cops.

    Instead, Colin Kaepernick’s choice was to exacerbate racial tensions and perpetuate the ugly lie that black males are being slaughtered in the streets by a systemically racist police force when they're actually being slaughtered in the streets by other blacks, or in abortion clinics. His frankly race-mongering, willful ignorance about the extraordinary success of civil rights in America, and the real sources of serious problems in the black community (such as the Democrat-abetted breakdown of the black family – including his own), won’t result in a single positive step toward the change he wants to see. Instead, his attitude is unconscionable and literally dangerous at time when the terrorists of Black Lives Matter (BLM) are successfully pushing for a race war.

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    ABOUT MARK TAPSON
    Mark Tapson, a Hollywood-based writer and screenwriter, is a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and the editor of TruthRevolt.com.
     
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    http://www.opposingviews.com/i/religion/colin-kaepernick-may-be-converting-islam-girlfriend-report

    Here's more:

    Colin Kaepernick May Convert To Islam For Girlfriend
    August 27, 2016 | by Sean Kelly
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    Colin Kaeperick During Super Bowl XLVII
    NFL star Colin Kaepernick, who sparked controversy for refusing to stand for the national anthem during an Aug. 26 Packers-49ers football game, is rumored to be transitioning to Islam.

    Several reports claim Kaepernick might be converting to Islam for his girlfriend, radio DJ Nessa. Nessa reportedly introduced Kaepernick to her religion’s teachings, and a source told MSN that the pair is planning to have a traditional Muslim wedding.

    The reports are just rumors, but they were amplified following the player’s controversial decision not to stand during the national anthem.


    Kaepernick said his decision not to stand at the Aug. 26 exhibition game was based on his feelings regarding police shootings and racial oppression in the U.S.

    “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color,” he said after the game, according to the NFL. “To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

    He added that he did not inform anyone on his team or the NFL about his decision prior to the game.

    “This is not something that I am going to run by anybody,’ he said. “I am not looking for approval. I have to stand up for people that are oppressed ... If they take football away, my endorsements from me, I know that I stood up for what is right."

    The 49ers later released a statement regarding their player's controversial decision:

    The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose and participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthem.

    The team’s coach, Chip Kelly told reporters that Kaepernick’s decision was “his right as a citizen.”

    “It’s not my right to tell him not to do something,” Kelly added.

    Sources: MSN, NFL / Photo credit: Austin Kirk/Flickr
     
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    Lol...So you can't tell the difference between standing up for your beliefs and a bigoted attack on another person, eh?
    Are you voting for Trump?
     
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    I hope they put him in and some American goes for his knees.
     
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    Democrat are ya?
     
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    Cry More: Kaepernick's 'Racial Struggle' As A Child
    BY: ROBERT KRAYCHIKAUGUST 27, 2016

    San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick spoke with left-wing celebrity tabloid Us Weekly in late 2015 to outline a “racial struggle” he associated with his childhood. The NFL star has generated headlines today following his refusal to stand for the national anthem during the pregame ritual on Friday, citing his opposition to America's "[oppression] of black people and people of color."

    Adopted by white parents in Wisconsin, Kaepernick is the biological child of a white woman and a black man. He was born in 1987.

    Speaking in terms of race, Kaepernick told Us Weekly that “he knew he was different [from his parents]… even before he could speak."

    "I knew I was different to my parents and my older brother and sister," said Kaepernick. "I never felt that I was supposed to be white. Or black, either. My parents just wanted to let me be who I needed to be."

    Us Weekly indulged Kaepernick's grievance-mongering and self-victimization, describing him as being "judged" by “the world” because of "the color of his skin."

    Kaepernick recalled his childhood struggles:


    "We used to go on these summer driving vacations and stay at motels. And every year, in the lobby of every motel, the same thing always happened, and it only got worse as I got older and taller. It didn’t matter how close I stood to my family, somebody would walk up to me, a real nervous manager, and say: ‘Excuse me. Is there something I can help you with?'"

    Somehow, Kaepernick developed a racial ethos over time:

    "What do I represent?’ And you know what? My racial heritage is something I want people to be well aware of. I do want to be a representative of the African community, and I want to hold myself and dress myself in a way that reflects that. I want black kids to see me and think: ‘Okay, he’s carrying himself as a black man, and that’s how a black man should carry himself.’"

    Kaepernick explained his refusal to stand for the Star-Spangled Banner, expressing solidarity with the neo-Marxist racial narratives of Black Lives Matter:

    "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

    Describing himself as a black man in a society that “oppresses black people,” Kaepernick signed a 6-year contract with the 49ers in 2015 for $114 million. He has also been paid millions of additional dollars through endorsement deals.


    Just another Obama.....poor little me--- half white, half black, but chooses the "oppressed" side so he can whine even though it was the WHITE side that raised him...he should lose his endorsements....what a joke he is!
     
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    That is what i dont get he is mixed race and there is nothing wrong with that... Why does he feel the need to be one or the other? Makes no sense...
     
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    I just found it funny he is trying his hardest to act a certain way and he got fined for calling a player the N-word.
     
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    lets' try some perspective here. First Kaepernick. There is no 'right to protest' on your employers time. He is, and should be at the mercy of the indulgence of his boss and the policies transcribed in his contract and that is certainly true at game time sitting in his employer provided uniform. He seems to recognize that and is realistic about potential consequences to his conduct. We should at least try to understand his point and not throw up a lot of strawmen attacks to smear his character. . He is protesting what he perceives as injustices done to others. It is therefore irrelevant that he has money, fame, and had opportunities ( he is not claiming he didn't) and he is not acting spoiled because he is not doing this to improve his lot, get something he wants, or a change in his contract. He does not seek a change in what happens to him or what he gets. He is doing this because he has a platform (provided by his employer), that other blacks who are mistreated do not have. His sincerity really should not be questioned. Its this use of tactic, time and place that is properly under scrutiny.

    That is under the control of the 49'ers management. They control that time and place. they can either be hard-ass or not. They can require players to stand or not. They choose not to require players to stand, but merely to encourage it. Their policies allow for some limited individual expression of political speech if they determine it not to unduly undermine the flow of the game and fan enjoyment. Its their call and they made it. I personally have no objection. Presumably the game started on time, folks enjoyed it and got fat on some fast food, while they did.

    if they find a lot of players doing this, they may require player cooperation with the tradition to get cohesion, or stop playing the anthem at games. I am fine with whatever they decide. This is about private conduct and decision-making in a very public venue.
     
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    Act what type of way?
     
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    He's well rehearsed, isn't he? That rhetoric is so bandied around, the people who use it sound like broken records--which are useless.
     
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    "What do I represent?’ And you know what? My racial heritage is something I want people to be well aware of. I do want to be a representative of the African community, and I want to hold myself and dress myself in a way that reflects that. I want black kids to see me and think: ‘Okay, he’s carrying himself as a black man, and that’s how a black man should carry himself.’"

    Ask him....

    How do you "carry yourself as a Black Man" Mcfranklin you have the floor.
     
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    So you don't value the freedoms the flag represents.
     
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    Well for starters, I, as a black man don't get my knickers in a twist over someone's refusal to stand for the anthem because that is considered a form of dissent and dissent is patriotic, as many have claimed.
     

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