Convicted felon Donald J. Trump is STILL a defendant and we should not forget this

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  1. ButterBalls

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    And you're comfortable with Biden having access to it :cynic:
     
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    Alvin Bragg's office just released all of the insurrectionists from Columbia university antisemitism rioting... Clearly, when you're working for the man, and rioting, it's ok.....
     
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    Were you in the courtroom? Did you listen, first hand, to all the testimony?
    Did you see the evidence?

    I'm going to guess NO
     
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    You gotta love the rediculous of the era.

    So much disconnect today..
     
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    No but I heard, viewed and read bullshit media 24/7 for that last eight frigging years..

    Mostly here on PF and the hate Trump club :pc::roflol:
     
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    So the actual validity of the conviction is not something you can really speak to.

    Thanks for admitting that.
     
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    LOL, unless you were literally in the courtroom at that trial day in and day out, all of us relied on the moment by moment updates of that trial. And more than one media outlet did this. Fox did this, MSNBC did this, CNN did this, Law and Crime did this, etc. But at the end of the trial, it is all up to the jury and the jury has spoken, didn't they?
     
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    The NY appellate courts are NOT going to overturn this conviction, and there is no federal question involved with this trial. The only outside chance for Trump is those jury instructions, and that is a big if.
     
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    That is not the definition of fair and impartial. It is not a question of whether one knows the defedant, and none of the jurors know the guy personally. You had two attorneys, most if not all well educated persons in their field, and so forth. That jury questionaire made sure that no juror was there to get their 15 seconds of fame afterwards or try to thwart the duty of what being a juror is. That is why the jury selection process was quick because the judge dismissed more than 50% of the first round of jurors fairly quickly. In other words, no bias towards the defendant, and NY has specific statutes, as well as a few Supreme Court cases of what exactly that means. It met the burden.
     
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    Yes the appellate court will see through the political involvement of the Biden WH … a honest thorough DOJ would have been all over this uncovering the communications between the prosecutors and the WH collusion….
     
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    The New York Appellate Courts will not. they rejected Trump's appeal on the gag order and will reject these appeals as well. It is his right to appeal his conviction once sentencing is pronounced on July 11th, but the state appellate courts will not. Federal courts will do the same because there is no federal question involved.
     
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    Even if there WAS communication between the "prosecutors and the WH", SO WHAT?
     
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    Depends on the crime they are convicted of.
     
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    Seriously?
     
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    Seriously
    So what?
     
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    You were literally in the courtroom, just the door you visited was labeled MSNBCNN.

    Come on, the left in the media and on this site and other left leaning forums has had Trump guilty of every thing he was accused of for a minimum of eight years before a trial was ever conducted.

    :pc: We got him this time!

    Time recorder truth..
     
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    Does it? Trump still has a gun apparently and if I were his handlers I would be removing the bullets because between his rapid onset dementia, falling polls and financial problems……. Narcissists like Trump often suicide when things go wrong
     
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    The WH involvement in the prosecution of their political opponent is a big deal.
     
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    Keep dreaming
     
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    How?
    Tell me exactly how it would be a big deal and then tell me what evidence, if any, you have that indicates that it even happened.
     
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    You have proof of that? In fact Garland did not proceed with the federal indictment of Trump despite him being named as “individual one” in the Cohen case
     
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    I'm speaking to media influence, corruption in the process and the lefts willingness to accept it, promote it and cheer it on..
     
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    Yes it does. Why shouldn't it?
    Violent criminal shouldn't have a gun.
    Why should that apply to non-violent criminal convicted of bad paperwork?

    And, you are suddenly concerned about Trump of all people committing suicide? Touching that you care, but Trump the narcicist would never do that.
     
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    And how, exactly, did the media influence this guilty verdict?
    You did not hear the testimony, you did not see the evidence.
    12 people unanimously found him guilty on 34 counts...and somehow the media is to blame?

    Which is more likely? That the 12 people who sat in the courtroom every day, listening to all the testimony, reviewing all the evidence reached a unanimous decision fairly?

    OR

    The ONE guy who got all HIS information from media sources and sound bites was swayed BY THE MEDIA and came to the wrong conclusion on the question of guilty or not guilty?
     
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    It would be a very big deal. It's dictator level stuff.
    Your better point is that we have seen little evidence of it happening.
     
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