Could P. M. Stephen Harper be correct abt the F-35 being the best for our air force?

DennisTate · Mar 19, 2015

I have ran for public office as an independent three times.

In 2009 I decided to join Canada's Liberal Party partly because I really like the fact that Mr. Stephan Dion proved that his party takes climate change very seriously.

Also, I was extremely impressed by the way Mr. Michael Ignatieff responded to the 2009 budget. He termed it a relatively "liberal" budget considering that it was tabled by the Conservative Party and P. M. Stephen Harper.

It immediately became obvious that the centrist Liberal Party is the place where somebody would fit best who believes that our political opponents should be given credit....... if and when they actually deserve it.

Does P. M. Stephen Harper deserve credit for making it clear that he prefers the F-35 over any other jet?

(notice post # 412 here):

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...24-bombers-practiced-attack-runs-nato-42.html

"Russias newest Su-30 multirole jets and Su-24 bombers practiced attack runs on NATO "
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Sure.....if I was the co-designer of the F-16 made my GENERAL DYNAMICS....which of course is NOT the maker of the F-35.....I would be calling the F-35 the worse idea since Stalin signed a Non-Agression Pact with Hitler!!

LOL!!!!

A SINGLE F-35 IS CAPABLE OF SHOOTING DOWN 8 OF THE MOST UPDATED F-16'S EXISTING AND POSSIBLY AS MANY AS 12!!!!

The F-35 is a 5th Generation Fighter/Attack Stealth Aircraft that will be available in STOL and VTOL for the U.S. Marines.

The F-22 Raptor proved itself to be UNDEFEATABLE when a brace...ie....two....F-22's operating IN FULL STEALTH MODE....when flying MOCK AIR BATTLES IN ALASKA RED FLAG.....well the F-22's would continue to shoot down as many Eurofighter Typhoons that were sent up against the brace of F-22's....at one time 12 Typhoons vs. two F-22's.....and all 12 Typhoons were shot down before they barely even knew they were being targeted.

The F-35 has even better avionics and better INTEGRATED SERVICE AND INTEGRATED NATO AND AUSSIE FIRE CONTROL SYSTEMS with along with modified B-1B Bombers fitted with HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS OF NEW HIGHLY ADVANCED AND LONG RANGE U.S. AIR TO AIR MISSILES......8 to 12 Aussie F-35's and their Highly Advanced Avionics and Fire Control Systems can shoot down about 300 incoming TOP OF THE LINE CHINESE AIRCRAFT!!

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DennisTate · Mar 19, 2015

After reading some on both side of the F-35 topic I wasn't sure what to think so I began a discussion with one of the articles promoting BRIC fighter jet technology.

http://www.politicalforum.com/australia-nz-pacific/380300-analysis-f-35-accurate.html
Is this analysis of the F-35 accurate?

Should we Canadians and Australians demand that our F-35's be shipped to Israel…….. and debugged and modified by the I.A.F. before we make further payments on them?

.....http://www.politicalforum.com/australia-nz-pacific/380300-analysis-f-35-accurate-6.html

(posts # 51 and #52 here........ impressed me as an excellent analysis of the F-35 and F- 22 Raptor).

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......… AboveAlpha has done an excellent job of answering my questions on this..... which leads me to the conclusion that on this particular question...… maybe P. M. Stephen Harper deserves some credit?

This link should take you right to post #436.... again on the subject of the F-35.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=399364&page=44&p=1064846363#post1064846363

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Only 2 Air to Air Missiles carried internally of WHAT TYPE??

See...there's the rub!!

The F-22 and the F-35 will be the last Manned Air Combat/Attack fighter aircrafts the United States will ever build.

Yet they are expensive....yes they both have some issues.....but THERE DOES NOT EXIST A FOREIGN MADE FIGHTER AIRCRAFT THAN CAN SHOOT DOWN AN F-22 OR F-35 WHEN BOTH ARE OPERATING IN FULL STEALTH MODE....PERIOD!!!!

The German's....who are very good pilots....found this out when they sent up as many as 12 Eurofighter Typhoons up against 2 F-22's during the ALASKA RED FLAG EXERCISES!!!

And as well.....all 12 Typhoon's would have been just as easily shot down and destroyed if they were up against 2 F-35's as well.

The Eurofighter Typhoon IS A MUCH BETTER FIGHTER AIRCRAFT THAN ANYTHING THE RUSSIAN'S OR CHINESE HAVE....OR ARE EVEN BUILDING INCLUDING BOTH THE RUSSIAN AND CHINESE STEALTH FIGHTER PROGRAMS as both the Russian and Chinese Stealth Fighters are neither stealthy or effective using outdated Fire Control Systems and in some cases late 1980's Avionics!!!

The U.S. is developing a much more effective and lethal Stealth Fighter/Attack and Bomber Aircraft.....as all will be ROBOTIC.....SELF AUTONOMOUS.....CAPABLE OF FLYING ON STATION CONTINUOUSLY FOR UP TO 24 TO 48 HOURS OR IN SOME CASES LONGER......CAPABLE OF FLYING AT HYPERSONIC VELOCITIES.....HAVING THE IR-LIGHT SIGNATURE OF A FARTING BAT.....AND THE RADAR SIGNATURES OF A DRAGONFLY!!!

So....you and others keep on complaining about the F-22's and F-35's.....two U.S. Military Aircraft that not one single nation except the U.S. has even the capablity to shoot down!!!!

Yeah....your so right!!! What pieces of JUNK! LOL!!!

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Cubed · Mar 31, 2015

The F-35 is a military boondoggle that even the pilots don't want. Single engine planes are a serious mechanical safety problem waiting to happen, plus the price tag is way over blown considering the alternatives. It can't even bank properly.

Jowade · Apr 3, 2015

I believe Canada would be better off with the F-18 Super Hornets and a few French Rafales.

DennisTate · Apr 4, 2015

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I believe Canada would be better off with the F-18 Super Hornets and a few French Rafales.
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Excellent reply Jowade!

If…… the goal was "bang for your buck" I suspect that you might just be correct!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_F/A-18E/F_Super_Hornet

The Boeing F/A-18E Super Hornet and related twin-seat F/A-18F are twin-engine carrier-capable multirole fighter aircraft variants based on the McDonnell Douglas F/A-18 Hornet. The F/A-18E single-seat and F/A-18F tandem-seat variants are larger and more advanced derivatives of the F/A-18C and D Hornet. The Super Hornet has an internal 20 mm M61 rotary cannon and can carry air-to-air missiles and air-to-surface weapons. Additional fuel can be carried in up to five external fuel tanks and the aircraft can be configured as an airborne tanker by adding an external air refueling system.
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I personally am attempting to get people to think of a larger picture………. that includes a peaceful initiative to the entire Middle East that fulfills ancient Islamic and Jewish prophecies about the turning green of deserts in the "latter days/ last hour."

In order to accomplish this….. we need to take another look at money itself and certain flaws in how it is being created. Financing the much costlier F-35's is a good reason to inspire even Conservatives to take another look at the history of Canadian and American central banking policy.

www.BankingSystemFlaws.blogspot.ca/

When well trained workers have high quality technology to work with then the total of all wages and benefits paid out to employees is only a fraction of the retail value of the products they produce. As a result of this fact the only way to move products out of warehouses is to extend higher and higher levels of credit. One problem with an abundance of red ink is that compound interest on all this government, business and personal debt over a period of decades will grow to astronomical levels. At this time there is approximately TEN TIMES as much debt in Canada as there is money. A simple explanation for how this happened can be seen here:
http://www.michaeljournal.org/plenty34.htm
In my opinion this rather simple mathematical problem is perhaps the number one cause of inflation in the Canadian economy over the past three decades. This is also perhaps the number one reason why our costs of production are so high and Canadian products cannot compete on the world markets as well as they could under better conditions.

From 1940 to 1970 the Government of Canada put roughly half of the total money supply into the economy through loans issued through the federally owned Bank of Canada. Provincial and municipal governments could borrow the money to build roads, schools, hospitals and sewage treatment facilities at zero or one percent interest. In 1970 we changed our system and since that time a higher and higher percentage of all government debt is financed through loans issued through privately owned banks. At this time it is ninety eight percent. This policy may be great for our banking sector but it was estimated that in the one year of 1995 alone our federal government could have saved roughly SIXTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in interest payments if we had gone back to creating half the total money supply through these low interest rate loans issued through the bank that is OWNED BY ALL CANADIANS.

Considering that our deficit was approximately thirty billion dollars for that year, simply by changing back to an already proven monetary and banking system, we could theoretically have had a FEDERAL BUDGET SURPLUS OF THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS in 1995.

The massive cutbacks in the Canadian military, in health care, highway construction, social programs and education were profoundly affected by these accounting practices?

So what can you and I do about this problem?
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DennisTate · Apr 4, 2015

Cubed said: ↑

The F-35 is a military boondoggle that even the pilots don't want. Single engine planes are a serious mechanical safety problem waiting to happen, plus the price tag is way over blown considering the alternatives. It can't even bank properly.
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Valid points Cubed!

My point of view is somewhat different because I am trying to think of some way that the ethnic cleansing that is taking place in the Middle East could be slowed down and then stopped. One of the only ways that I can think of is by looking at money itself differently in order to finance a shift over to a literally greener economy.

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-peace-deal-between-jordan-israel-coming.html
Near death experiencer shown peace deal between Jordan and Israel is coming.

I read both of Dannion Brinkley's books about his two near death experiences back in the '90's.

Dannion Brinkley:
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"Boxes four and five were scenes from the Middle East, showing how this area of eternal strife would reach a boiling point. Religion would play a large role in these problems, as would the economy. A constant need for outside money fueled much of the anger and hatred that I saw in these boxes.In the first of these boxes I saw two agreements taking place.In the first, Israelis and Arabs were agreeing to something, but what was unclear to me.The second accord was one that I could see in some detail. Men were shaking hands and there was much talk about a new country. Then I saw a collage of images: the River Jordan, a settlement from Israel that was spreading into Jordan, and a map on which the country of Jordan was changing color.

As I watched this puzzling collage unfold, I heard a Being speak telepathically to me and say that the country of Jordan would exist no more. I did not hear the name of the new country."
(Dannion Brinkley, page 26, Saved By The Light, Scribd version)
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"The country of Jordan was changing color" could mean that the deserts were turning green. There is an ancient Islamic prophecy that in the latter days the deserts of the Islamic nations would be turned green.

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110

"ISLAM IN SCIENCE/BIBLE/HISTORY:
Friday, 23 September 2005

Topic: 9: DESERTS GREEN/MANIFEST

Here is prophecy I personally thought some way to happen:

Book 005, Number 2208:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers.SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)
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Technology has developed so much over the past decades that we now know that it is not impossible to turn deserts green:

http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

DennisTate · Jun 21, 2015

AboveAlpha said:

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As I have stated of course anytime you jump from a Gen 3 Aircraft all the way to Gen 5 there is going to be some issues to work out.

The importance of the F-35 is because not only is it highly stealthy and thus would survive any engagement....but it is also important for the overall Defense Plan for North America.

You know and I know that the U.S. and Canadian Militaries are really just one Larger Military.

There is an intrinsic bond between the U.S. and Canada as we are basically the same people no matter what a few REAL PAIN IN THE A$$E$ think in Quebec.

The United States and Canada thus NORAD protect the entire Continent as well the U.S. has a responsibility by treaty to protect the entirety of Northern, Central and South America as well as Europe, Australia, Japan, South Korea most of the Middle East and now even VIETNAM WANT'S LARGE U.S. BASES BACK!!

The U.S. has already developed and tested both Gen 6 and Gen 7 Self Autonomous Robotic Aircraft as we have landed them and flown them off the decks of U.S. Nimitz Class Carriers.

Along with B-1MC....Air to Air Missile Carriers which are Supersonic and will work as Launch Platform Air to Air Missile Carriers....just 6 to 12 Canadian F-35B's are capable of shooting down up to 300 of the very Top Line Fighter or any other Aircraft made by any Nation save the F-22 Raptor.

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Speaking of Quebec……. I actually did a youtube video a few years ago where I quoted somebody from there rather extensively who was presenting a pretty powerful case that a variation on economic genocide was being done on English speaking people living there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfrzkBSymJI
English Speaking Canadians.wmv

reallybigjohnson · Jul 4, 2015

The people that sing the praises of Russia's and China's latest fighters are just as partisan and blind as the people that sing the praises of the F35. In the case of the F35 its because they are trying to do the impossible and make a fighter that does everything with just one airframe. You cannot ignore physics. In the case of China and Russia they just suck because they only have a couple of prototypes and are incapable of making large amounts of them and frankly at least in the case of China their technology is almost always overblown. If you think the US industrial complex is inefficient and corrupt it doesn't even begin to compare to how bad Russia and China's military industries are.

DennisTate · Jul 19, 2015

reallybigjohnson said: ↑

The people that sing the praises of Russia's and China's latest fighters are just as partisan and blind as the people that sing the praises of the F35. In the case of the F35 its because they are trying to do the impossible and make a fighter that does everything with just one airframe. You cannot ignore physics. In the case of China and Russia they just suck because they only have a couple of prototypes and are incapable of making large amounts of them and frankly at least in the case of China their technology is almost always overblown. If you think the US industrial complex is inefficient and corrupt it doesn't even begin to compare to how bad Russia and China's military industries are.
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I truly appreciate your replying to my discussion reallybigjohnson.

I just posted the link to this discussion on the Donald Trump page:

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/posts/10155852371680725

Mr. Trump.... like you I try my best to be very honest and blunt. I am a member of Canada's Liberal Party but.... I recently wrote up a discussion thread that puts forward the theory that P. M. Stephen Harper may well be very wise indeed to want to purchase more than sixty F-35's?
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(Donald J. Trump)

I am not a fan of John McCain because he has done so little for our Veterans and he should know better than anybody what the Veterans need, especially in regards to the VA. He is yet another all talk, no action politician who spends too much time on television and not enough time doing his job and helping the Vets. He is also allowing our military to decrease substantially in size and strength, something which should never be allowed to happen.

Furthermore, he was extremely disrespectful to the thousands upon thousands of people, many of whom happen to be his constituents, that came to listen to me speak about illegal immigration in Phoenix last week by calling them "crazies".

These were not "crazies"---these were great American citizens.

I have great respect for all those who serve in our military including those that weren't captured and are also heroes.

I want to strengthen our military and take care of our Veterans. I want to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN especially for those that serve to protect our freedom. I am fighting for our Veterans!
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DennisTate · Jul 24, 2015

Cubed said: ↑

The F-35 is a military boondoggle that even the pilots don't want. Single engine planes are a serious mechanical safety problem waiting to happen, plus the price tag is way over blown considering the alternatives. It can't even bank properly.
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I have a rather strange theory in mind that could make the F-35 seem like a quite reasonable purchase..... considering the alternatives.

What I have in mind though is like a game of chess and involves something of an "opening gambit."

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/418381-could-we-canadians-stop-iran-deal.html

Could we Canadians STOP the Iran deal?

First, the deal guarantees that Iran will develop nuclear weapons. Second, it gives $150 billion to the mullahs.
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I am reading an article right now that theorizes that we Canadians...… might just be able to influence events in the USA to the point where by speaking out we actually STOP the obviously flawed Iran deal???????

I find it a little hard to imagine that we Canadians could have that much of an effect....... but then I remember the G-8 meetings from back in 2011 and................. wow!

DennisTate · Jul 24, 2015

I have read a powerful case that time branches and branches and branches...........

Up until a few days ago I had suspected that perhaps time would branch off..... maybe once a year....... but then I read another post by AboveAlpha............. and the implications are heavy indeed.

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=411555&page=24&p=1065221418#post1065221418

AboveAlpha said: ↑

Now this is a FACT.......

......there are Genuine PSYCHICS who exist on the FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA and State Police PAYROLL!!!

These people are extremely introverted and obviously capable of accessing information in other Alternate Divergent Universal States of Reality by ACCESSING THE MINDS OF THEIR DUPLICATE SELFS!!!

Since TIME in these Alternate Universal States is not matched up with ours a Psychic or Sensitive is able to access her dupicates mind and see perhaps what her Dupicate is seeing such as her duplicate is watching a New Channel and the story is about how they finally found LITTLE TIMMY BROWN.....who disapeared a week ago and was finally found dead at the bottom of an old WELL that he fell into and broke his arm and leg and got too weak to cry out for help.

This TV NEWS PROGRAM is running in FUTURE TIME compared to our Universe as the Psychic or Sensitive is brought in after 3 days has gone by....touches something of Timmy's....and this helps orient her minds search of a proper timeline and Universal State Divergent from ours that is running a week ahead of ours.

So the Psychic see's the News and tells the State Cop's he is in a well that he fell into....the Cop's go to every well they know about and find Little Timmy Brown half dead but STILL ALIVE as in our Universe he is just 3 days in and not 7 when he dies.

That is basically how I believe it works.

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To my thinking..... the implications of what the amazingly well informed AboveAlpha writes here..... is that time may well be branching and branching........... off into new time lines..... as often as once per week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I dealt with the subject of non-linear time over in the Humor and Satire section........... partly because this subject is kind of mind boggling...........

http://www.politicalforum.com/humor...2000-election-but-negates-global-dimming.html

In alternate time line Mr. Gore wins the 2000 election but negates Global Dimming....

I personally loved the film "An Inconvenient Truth." I have watched it four or five times at least. It played a huge role in my deciding to join a political party that takes climate change very seriously.

Largely due to his film I actually put in two submissions for The Virgin Earth Challenge.

I do have one criticism for his film though..... the diplomacy quotient was extremely low and America is more divided than ever partly because of the flavor of his film.
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post #4.....The ash, soot and dust that goes into the atmosphere from all those smoke stacks... over the short term... tends to mask/decrease a general global warming trend!!!!!!!!!

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NARRATOR: Burning fuel doesn't just produce the invisible greenhouse gases which cause global warming. It also produces visible pollution, tiny airborne particles of soot and other pollutants. These produce the haze which shrouds our cities. So Ramanathan wondered: Could this pollution be causing Global Dimming? The Maldives were the perfect place to find out. The Maldives seem unpolluted, but in fact the northern islands sit in a stream of dirty air descending from India. Only the southern tip of the long island chain enjoys clean air coming all the way from Antarctica. So by comparing the northern islands with the southern ones, Ramanathan and his colleagues would be able to see exactly what difference the pollution made to the atmosphere and the sunlight. Project INDOEX, as it was called, was a huge multinational effort. For four years every possible technique was used to sample and monitor the atmosphere over the Maldives. INDOEX cost twenty-five million dollars, but it produced results - and they surprised everyone.

PROF VEERABHADRAN RAMANATHAN: The stunning part of the experiment was this pollutant layer which was three kilometre thick, cut down the sunlight reaching the ocean by more than 10%.

NARRATOR: A 10% fall in sunlight meant that particle pollution was having a far bigger effect than anyone had thought possible.

PROF VEERABHADRAN RAMANATHAN: Our models led us to believe the human impact on the dimming was close to half to one per cent. So what we discovered was tenfold.

NARRATOR: INDOEX showed that the pollution particles were blocking some sunlight themselves; but far more significant was what they were doing to the clouds. They were turning them into giant mirrors. Clouds are made of droplets of water. These only form when water vapour in the atmosphere starts to condense on the surface of naturally occurring airborne particles, typically pollen or sea salt. As they grow, the water droplets eventually become so heavy they fall as rain. But Ramanathan found that polluted air contained far more particles than the unpolluted air, particles of ash, soot and sulphur dioxide.
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post #7......Could a win by Mr. Al Gore in 2000 have led to America being 15% submerged under the oceans by January 1, 2013?

Time does look like a menorah....... or tree with branches and roots... and is not confined to being a straight line...

In theory....... Mr. Gore's policy could have ended up greatly decreasing the Global Dimming Effect..... at the same time that it might do little to reduce a general Global Warming trend.... which could lead to rapid warming.....and of course increased cracking and sliding on the land based Greenland Ice Pack.... the world's glaciers and the outer regions of Antarctica......

Prime Minister Stephen Harper and President Bush may have deliberately allowed somewhat bad policy to continue... because they probably had been told that the factors that increase Global Dimming..... do tend to mask Global Warming.... .which could mean within five decades we may know that that they may have had a basically good idea..... in comparison to worst possible alternative.....??????!!!

http://www.baproducts.com/chetmap.htm

Dr Chet Snow's Earth Change Map

AMERICA IN THE NEW MILLENNIUM
After the major Earth Changes 1998-2012 AD
as foreseen in Mass Dreams of the Future
by Dr. Chet B. Snow
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DennisTate · Jul 24, 2015

I personally feel that Canada is in a perfect place from which to initiate a whole new level of cooperation between Canada - Israel and Jordan.

I would love to see P. M. Stephen Harper initiate some important parts of this even before the next federal election.

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-peace-deal-between-jordan-israel-coming.html

Near death experiencer shown peace deal between Jordan and Israel is coming.

I read both of Dannion Brinkley's books about his two near death experiences back in the '90's.

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Dannion Brinkley:
......................"Boxes four and five were scenes from the Middle East, showing how this area of eternal strife would reach a boiling point. Religion would play a large role in these problems, as would the economy. A constant need for outside money fueled much of the anger and hatred that I saw in these boxes.In the first of these boxes I saw two agreements taking place.In the first, Israelis and Arabs were agreeing to something, but what was unclear to me.The second accord was one that I could see in some detail. Men were shaking hands and there was much talk about a new country. Then I saw a collage of images: the River Jordan, a settlement from Israel that was spreading into Jordan, and a map on which the country of Jordan was changing color.

As I watched this puzzling collage unfold, I heard a Being speak telepathically to me and say that the country of Jordan would exist no more. I did not hear the name of the new country." (Dannion Brinkley, page 26, Saved By The Light, Scribd version)
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"The country of Jordan was changing color" could mean that the deserts were turning green. There is an ancient Islamic prophecy that in the latter days… the deserts of the Islamic nations would be turned green.

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110

"ISLAM IN SCIENCE/BIBLE/HISTORY:
Friday, 23 September 2005

Topic: 9: DESERTS GREEN/MANIFEST

Here is prophecy I personally thought some way to happen:

Book 005, Number 2208:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers.SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)

1.DESERTS GREEN? (Allah knows best)

If mankind is on earth during next ice age (signs from it already there, like Golf-stream slowing down 20% in last five years period, some scientist predict that Britain might have climate of Alaska in next 20 years), deserts of Arabs (Sahara+Middle-East) is going to be green, as they were during last ice age when black Africans inhabited even nowadays deserts of Libya. This has been mentioned in prophecy and hadith of prophet Mohammed (puh), as he said that "deserts of Arabs will once again be filled with rivers and gardens". Noticeably here is for example satellite pictures taken from Saudi-Arabian desert, In these pictures anyone can clearly see old river streams going under desert, and from there founded remains of gardens and agricultural activity. So Mohammed knew without proofs that during last ice age area was green, And so it will be during next ice age after change in climate and rainfalls. But this prophecy does not exclude possibility that humans themselves could make them green, as their actions would anyway be originated from Allah, and it could happen this way:"
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This is certainly a good beginning to turning the deserts of Jordan green.

http://saharaforestproject.com/projects/jordan.html

Total funding for the Sahara Forest Project Launch Station is provided by the Norwegian Ministry of Climate and Environment, represented by the Royal Norwegian Embassy in Amman, together with The Grieg Foundation and other philanthropic sources. The Launch Station will be the first step towards the realization of a full-scale Sahara Forest Project Centre in Aqaba, Jordan. The objective of this first phase is to demonstrate the technology under local conditions, to engage a team on the ground and attract relevant stakeholders for going forward. The Launch Station will contain a Saltwater-cooled greenhouse in combination with solar power technologies and facilities for outdoor cultivation and revegetation.
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DennisTate · Jul 24, 2015

Just as P. M. Stephen Harper has built up an extremely good relationship with P. M. Netanyahu and with Israel........ so also Liberal Party Leader Mr. Justin Trudeau would, (in my opinion), be the perfect person to send to the nation of Jordan with another part of this same overall plan.

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...ts-take-937-those-syrian-refugees-canada.html

Mr. Justin Trudeau, let's take 937 of those Syrian refugees to Canada?

Mr. Justin Trudeau, I am truly impressed to see that you also met with King Abdullah of Jordan during his recent visit.

For years now I have been thinking that documentary, reality and semi-reality science fiction film projects can be used to address some of the massive problems that humanity is facing.

Hollywood has often dealt with the possibility that many theoretical physicists have postulated, that time itself may not be limited to being one straight line but instead may branch much like the limbs on a tree.

Let's imagine that a moment in 1939 can be recreated and we get to do a retake on Canada's decision regarding the M. S. St. Louis?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis

As the St. Louis was turned away from the United States, a group of academics and clergy in Canada tried to persuade the nation's Prime Minister, William Lyon Mackenzie King, to provide sanctuary to the ship's passengers, as it was only two days from Halifax, Nova Scotia.[12] But, Canadian immigration officials and cabinet ministers hostile to Jewish immigration persuaded the Prime Minister on June 9 not to intervene.[13]
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Theoretically, we could hire 937 refugees from Syria, who have fled to Jordan, as actors and actresses playing the role of the 937 refugees on the M. S. St. Louis, and we could give them two year contracts with a film production cooperative or company, that would make it easier for them to get through the immigration process. The nation of Jordan has taken in 1.5 million refugees so perhaps 937 of them can come to Nova Scotia to participate in a practice run at doing things differently this time around.

DennisTate · Jul 27, 2015

This P. M. from AboveAlpha was so relevant to this whole discussion that I asked if it was OK for me to post it here......

The idea that he expresses about Canada and the USA considering joining is interesting...................... I believe that we should consider ARTISTIC UNITY.......... and I will explain more about that a little later!

AboveAlpha said:

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Well it would be in Canada's and the U.S.'s best interest as the two Nations have an Integrated Military and in all honesty even though we are two Nations we are really one Nation.

As I have stated I have many Canadian Relative's and so do most American's especially those living in the North of the United States.

Because of this the BOND between the U.S. and Canada goes far beyond just Economic and Military as IT IS A BLOOD RELATIONSHIP.

There is not a Country in the WORLD that does not know that if they were to mess with Canada that the United States would come down on them like the RIGHT HAND OF GOD!!

And I know that if the U.S. was in trouble that Canada would help us without question.

Especially since just about every Canadian Family has relatives in the United States as well.

With the sole exception of some IDIOTS IN QUEBEC....I am so glad they lost that referendum to succede from Canada....most Canadian's and American's are impossible to tell apart.

We have the longest unguarded and unmilitarized boarder in the world.

And it has now been estimated that the amount of North American Oil when we include all liquid Oil as well as Canadian Sand Tar Oil and U.S. Shale Oil is 6.1 TIMES the total amount of Oil Resources in the Middle East.

Because of this both Canada and the U.S. will become completely ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT by 2023.

Personally I think that the 2 Nations should join and become 1 Nation as well I think it will eventually be in both the interests of the U.S. and Canada to include Mexico....not right now....but within 50 years as Mexico has a lot of Oil and as it is many American and Canadian's vacation in Mexico and the 3 Nations could become part of a NORTH AMERICAN DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC.

This would allow the 3 Nations to enjoy not only Military and Economic Dominance....and yes...the U.S. already enjoys this but once the U.S. and Canada become Energy Self Sufficient there will no longer be any reason for the U.S. to be spending TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON DEFENSE....as we can begin to FOCUS ON OURSELVES AND CANADA AND MEXICO.

It is important for the U.S. to help Mexico do to the Billions upon Billions of Dollars we spend on crime and Drug Related Crimes.

In my state of Massachusetts we decriminalized POT....and a person can carry up to 1 ounce and if caught they get a $100 Ticket...but because it is not a crime a Police Officer cannot even ask a person for their ID...thus the Cop's do not bother giving out Tickets thus Pot is Legal in a sence.

This has FREED UP THE MASS. COURT SYSTEM and saved Taxpayers already over $1 Billion!!!

If the U.S. did the same thing nationally along with Canada....this would destroy the Mexican POT CARTELS.

Cocaine is another issue all together but between the 3 Nations something should be worked out.

I don't see a TRUE UNITED STATES OF NORTH AMERICA for at least 50 YEARS but it is coming.

Each STATE would remain the same such as such states in a U.S.N.A. would include Quebec, Mass, Chiuaua, Texas, Newfoundland, California...etc.

As it is we all share a Continent where none of us have waged war against the other since Davey Crocket died at the Alamo and the War of 1812.

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DennisTate · Nov 22, 2015

If Mr. Mitt Romney becomes involved in the election....... he certainly wants America to have a strong military.

https://www.facebook.com/PresidentM...8522.249577685069087/1206842092675970/?type=3

DennisTate · Feb 12, 2016

This topic can become extremely important again during Canada's Conservative Party leadership race!

Seleucus · Feb 18, 2016

All next-gen aircraft have issues, and the F-35 is no exception. It will be a formidable aircraft once they get the kinks out, but it is so bleeding edge that that could take a very long time, and given their per airframe cost, plus the maintenance and training and systems support on top of that, they are unaffordable.

Our current gen F-18s are robust, adaptable, proven airframes able to take any number of modernization upgrades. Our military infrastructure, training system and pilot cadre are fully geared up to make optimum use of them, and they are good for another ten years plus. By then, the F-35's shortcomings will be addressed or obvious, and we can think then about them then.

I would advocate buying the 35 immediately only if I expected to go up against an air force equipped with them, and I don't want to even contemplate a situation where that might happen.

DennisTate · Feb 19, 2016

Seleucus said: ↑

All next-gen aircraft have issues, and the F-35 is no exception. It will be a formidable aircraft once they get the kinks out, but it is so bleeding edge that that could take a very long time, and given their per airframe cost, plus the maintenance and training and systems support on top of that, they are unaffordable.

Our current gen F-18s are robust, adaptable, proven airframes able to take any number of modernization upgrades. Our military infrastructure, training system and pilot cadre are fully geared up to make optimum use of them, and they are good for another ten years plus. By then, the F-35's shortcomings will be addressed or obvious, and we can think then about them then.

I would advocate buying the 35 immediately only if I expected to go up against an air force equipped with them, and I don't want to even contemplate a situation where that might happen.
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This is a phenomenal answer on this topic.

This is especially relevant to me because I actually initiated a campaign to attempt to become National Leader of Canada's Liberal Party back around 2012 or so and I will very possibly eventually initiate a campaign to become National Leader of the Conservative Party now that I have left the Liberal Party and joined them.

For the moment..... I will be attempting to the best of my ability to encourage Mr. Peter MacKay to toss his hat in the leadership race....... I believe that he would make a fantastic Prime Minister of Canada.... This is a crucial topic..... for many reasons.... one of which is Canada's relationship with Israel.

DennisTate · Jul 13, 2016

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=460752&page=20&p=1066403526&posted=1#post1066403526

Thread: Russia has completed the conceptual design of a 6th generation hypersonic stealth fig

DennisTate said: ↑

I honestly don't think that it can compete with the F-22 Raptor or even with the F-35.... bugs and all.

http://www.politicalforum.com/canad...orrect-abt-f-35-being-best-our-air-force.html

Could P. M. Stephen Harper be correct abt the F-35 being the best for our air force?
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DennisTate · Nov 2, 2016

An F-35 is not merely a fighter jet......
from the point of view of the pilot...... it is also a stage......

from the point of view of a semi-reality science fiction film maker...... it is a prop.

.... potentially an off the scale valuable prop / stage .......IF...........
P. M. Benjamin agrees with the basic idea put forward here......

http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...jamin-netanyahu-lets-get-into-production.html

DennisTate · Feb 21, 2017

I have one of the strangest theories buzzing around in my head that anybody has ever put forward
regarding how world peace could perhaps be attained?!

I personally feel that the analysis on the F-35 and F-22 Raptor that I quote in the opening posts of this
discussion are accurate........
and obviously.......
sales people for the competing war jets do not want it to become common knowledge that
nothing else on the market is in the same league as the F-35 and the F-22!

This fact.........
could inspire those same sales people for all competing jets to
try their best......
to ensure that full fledged combat against the F-35's and F-22 Raptors.....
NEVER TAKES PLACE!

The possible implications are huge!

DennisTate · Feb 27, 2017

An interesting debate indeed!

http://www.politicalforum.com/warfare-military/451015-best-modern-fighter.html
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axialturban said: ↑

Oh wait, you want "multi-role" fighter.... I thought you meant air supremacy and voted F22. Multi-role is different from a dedicated air supremacy (ie fighter), strike or interdiction platform - though interdiction as a specialized aircraft platform (at least in fast jets) has gone the way of the dodo bird since the advent of standoff and cruise weapons and emergence of integrated air defenses and look down shoot down radars.

Multirole is F35, easy, IMO.

Nations like the US can afford specialized platforms for things like air supremacy (F22) and strike (B2, B1 etc), and use multi-roles to fill the gaps. Smaller nations can only afford one, or maybe a couple of different platforms so need to find multirole platforms which work better in the areas they need. It's why Australia is getting the F18F/G and F35A combination - they both can share work, but they both have advantage at each end of the spectrum of air warfare/combat taskings.
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Cornergas · Apr 30, 2017

Bring back the Avro Arrow CF 105 totally canadian made with the Iroquois engines...would outdo anything in the air even today.

DennisTate · May 2, 2017

DennisTate said: ↑

An interesting debate indeed!

http://www.politicalforum.com/warfare-military/451015-best-modern-fighter.html
Best Modern Fighter
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Too bad AboveAlpha isn't still on the forum or I would pass your
reply on to him because I know that he could answer your post with a level of
understanding that I can't begin to mimic.

There is a guy over on the Australia forum who is the next best thing though......
so I will pass this intriguing comment on to him?!

Cornergas · May 6, 2017

Now here is a real aircraft.....http://nationalinterest.org/feature/avro-arrow-could-canadas-cold-war-super-jet-have-dominated-16637

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