Could the Ezekiel Temple stop the Great Tribulation?

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Could the Ezekiel Temple Complex end The Great Tribulation?

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  2. No

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  3. Perhaps... and I sure do hope so!!!!

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  4. No... this would lead to another Middle East war and increased tensions in the Middle East.

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  1. DennisTate

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    Due to how astonishingly positive every word of Ezekiel chapter forty seven is I personally am hopeful that this theory that the construction of the Ezekiel Temple Complex is the best way to end The Great Tribulation.

    Ezekiel chapter forty seven sounds like it is win - win - win - win - win - win for Israel, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and for the Palestinians in both the West Bank as well as Gaza.

    Ezekiel 47 .... "
    47 The man brought me back to the entrance to the temple, and I saw water coming out from under the threshold of the temple toward the east (for the temple faced east). The water was coming down from under the south side of the temple, south of the altar. 2 He then brought me out through the north gate and led me around the outside to the outer gate facing east, and the water was trickling from the south side.

    3 As the man went eastward with a measuring line in his hand, he measured off a thousand cubits and then led me through water that was ankle-deep. 4 He measured off another thousand cubits and led me through water that was knee-deep. He measured off another thousand and led me through water that was up to the waist. 5 He measured off another thousand, but now it was a river that I could not cross, because the water had risen and was deep enough to swim in—a river that no one could cross. 6 He asked me, “Son of man, do you see this?”

    Then he led me back to the bank of the river. 7 When I arrived there, I saw a great number of trees on each side of the river. 8 He said to me, “This water flows toward the eastern region and goes down into the Arabah, where it enters the Dead Sea. When it empties into the sea, the salty water there becomes fresh. 9 Swarms of living creatures will live wherever the river flows. There will be large numbers of fish, because this water flows there and makes the salt water fresh; so where the river flows everything will live. 10 Fishermen will stand along the shore; from En Gedi to En Eglaim there will be places for spreading nets. The fish will be of many kinds—like the fish of the Mediterranean Sea. 11 But the swamps and marshes will not become fresh; they will be left for salt. 12 Fruit trees of all kinds will grow on both banks of the river. Their leaves will not wither, nor will their fruit fail. Every month they will bear fruit, because the water from the sanctuary flows to them. Their fruit will serve for food and their leaves for healing.” (Ezekiel 47:1 - 12)



    https://yehezkeel-narod-ru.translat..._sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp

    Did Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus also mean Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight when he spoke the following words?

    "Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:" (Luke 24:25)

    Page two of this amazing book can be seen here...
    https://yehezkeel-narod-ru.translat...=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_sch=http
     
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    it's a lot of reading for me but I will try!
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    https://yehezkeel-narod-ru.translat...=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_sch=http

    This idea of prodigal earthly religions being hit with metaphorical hail sure does sound good to me......
    because religions of the past have been used to divide people and fan the flames of hatred so that nations continue to go to war against other nations.



    "And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more." (Isaiah 2:4)
     
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    I really do appreciate your getting into this......
    I have noticed already that the idea of this world's religions being hit with new ideas that positively transform religion at this time sure fits with
    an article on Isaiah chapter forty five by a near death experiencer from Uganda. This man had at least one brush with death while he had malaria.

    https://yehezkeel-narod-ru.translat...=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp&_x_tr_sch=http

    Here is the article on a Christian Political Cyrus by the near death experiencer from Uganda.

     
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    Be back tomorrow to read again!
     
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    I have to admit that I probably worded the opening post and the poll rather badly........
    I believe that "The Great Tribulation" can be increased in intensity by our bad decisions.......
    and decreased in intensity by our good decisions... our repentance and by our prayers........

    I do believe that The Great Tribulation is real.... but......
    I believe that we are living in Applied Multiverse Theory where there is more than one fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter thirty seven.......
    which fits with Revelation chapter twenty......
    as well as with Romans chapters nine, ten and eleven.........


    Multiple fulfillments of Ezekiel chapter thirty seven would lead to multiple time lines for the fulfillment of Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight......

    The Future and the Near-Death Experience
    BY KEVIN WILLIAMSPOSTED ON SEPTEMBER 22, 2019

     
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    I personally do believe that there will be genuinely prophetic people living in the latter days previous to the fulfillment of Zechariah chapter fourteen when finally Messiah the Passover Lamb / Messiah Son of David / Messiah Yeshua - Jesus will actually set His feet on the Mt. of Olives and then proceed to take over in the governments of all nations.

    "The anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have executed, and till he have performed the thoughts of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it perfectly." (Jeremiah 23:20 ).

    How could we in the latter days finally consider the anger of the LORD perfectly unless there were genuinely prophetic people raised up by the Heavenly Father and by Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and by The Holy Spirit in these latter days??????


    Rick Joyner had a visionary dream back in 1994 and 1995 that he wrote down as three books that are so brilliantly written that it is easier to believe that he had a genuine visionary dream of heaven than that he is simply a Christian literary genius far beyond C. S. Lewis?!


    http://64.71.77.248/fq-protestant/tfq-en.html
    The Final Quest by Rick Joyner


    Back in 1988 when I was twenty nine, I thought that I understood the Bible pretty good.....
    I was a student of Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong and his dad Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong and we had explanations for every verse in the Bible......
    but.... when I found out that we were terribly off on the understanding of Soul Sleep I knew that our understanding was far less than we had assumed.

    https://vimeopro.com/vfndc/final-quest-the-call-the-harvest/video/414170858
    The Final Quest, by Pastor Rick Joyner on text video, this section is about ninety percent down the page or near the end of the video.


    Since Messiah Yeshua - Jesus can resurrect the dead without even working up a sweat.... .what exactly does that mean???????

    Could it mean.... just as an example.... that Jesus could resurrect all the dead on May 14, 1948 but then POUR OUT MUCH MORE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT ON ALL FLESH....so that a new time line is created from that date........ that in actuality is a major fulfillment of Ezekiel chapter thirty seven????????

    Considering this possibility caused me to look at the Jewish and Christian scriptures very differently..... as well as at other modern prophecies....... I now saw them as potentially warnings of a possible other time line... .that may actually have already occurred... but we could make better decisions in our time line...... more of us could pray and repent and a disaster that happened in another time line cold be altered in our time line?????!!!!! This is a strange idea... but this is what I mean by Applied Multiverse Theory....... APPLIED BY MESSIAH YESHUA - JESUS AS HE ANSWERS THE PRAYERS AND REWARDS THE REPENTANCE OF HIS BRIDE!!!!

    YES... one of the implications of all this is multiple versions of you and I in other time lines......!!!!!

    On the extremely plus side.... the version of the Mark of the Beast that was shown to near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley in his 1975 brush with death and near death experience can be a warning for us....... and we can avoid the mark of the beast as it happened in the future that he saw, (that may actually have already occurred just before his near death experience)..... perhaps Dannion was NOT sent back in the first time line that he saw......... but in our time line Dannion Brinkley was sent back.. .and his books and his lectures all over America and all over the world have transformed how all of us think and view our place in the universe / multiverse.


     
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    I just met a man today who has me seriously considering making Aliyah to Israel!!!!

    https://wordfromyerushalaim.wordpress.com

     
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    Wow...... Siman Tov's testimony is astonishing!!!!!



    Simantov's Testimony of God's faithfulness.

    Shalom Simon Tov.... what do you think of what near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm was shown about the events behind the scenes during The Holocaust?

     
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    I am technically a Gentile and I know relatively little on this topic but I have developed the opinion that The Ezekiel temple complex explained in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty eight should be built first.... before any other temple in Israel!!!

    I believe that the clarity and simplicity of the Ezekiel predictions and the probable location for the Ezekiel Temple means that it should be built first.... partly due to the fact that both Christians as well as Muslims who believe what the Koran says about the destiny of the Jewish people should support the building of the Ezekiel temple complex. Ezekiel chapter forty seven sounds like a win - win - win - win - win - win scenario for Israelis, Jordanians, Lebanese, Palestinians in both the West Bank and Gaza as well as for Egyptians so.......... it is as if nobody can really lose IF is done in the timing of YHWH / The G-d of Abraham.


     
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    Could the specifics of The Abrahamic Accords make the completion of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex impossible????????

    If so... then this would mean that The Abrahamic Accords are seriously flawed!!!!!

    https://mailchi.mp/871d247a7ba8/the-crossthe-only-way-3323542?e=7f89fde435





    Prophetic Word After US Election, "There will be no winner"
     
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    Remember the theme song for the cartoon series "Underdog?"



    Underdog Cartoon theme song

    Auditions for the role of Elijah needed....












    This will give you some context for what I am attempting to explain......

    Are the Palestinians the Jews NOT expelled from Judaea after Bar Kochba Revolt?


     
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    Ezekiel may sound great to YOU, but remember that his line led to Joshua, whose JOB was to slaughter the indigenous population of Israel in order to steal their land.

    And, that slaughter and theft were blessed by your god.

    What we see today is Joshua, NOT Ezekiel.

    And, NOTHING you have EVER said shows ANY interest in an end to the ethnic cleansing that started with Joshua and has been supported by the USA.
     
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    So.... how can you read the following and NOT catch on that what is being spoken about here is very different from what happened during the time of Joshua the successor to Moses?


    https://near-death.com/howard-storm-nde/


     
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    Religion has to have better consistency than that.
     
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    Dennis, please don't take this badly but you're bloody nerts

    Mind I think it's no more than most religious people and definitely not in a bad way but you are truly an original thinker. Don't ever change.
     
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    Facing cognitive dissonance quickly.......
    and admitting it to the gang here on political forum is quite therapeutic........

    As you know I am a rather enthusiastic supporter of President Trump.... I believe that it was his intentions to try his best to play in a similar league to Lincoln and JFK......

    but..... just eight days ago I ran into evidence that President Donald J. Trump may have made a rather colossal error........ (even worse in some ways than giving Dr. Tony Fauci power over the lives of Americans).....

    and I actually am thinking that his EGO might just be the key to helping him to switch around and give up on the seriously flawed "Abrahamic Peace Accords" and instead go out to be involved in arguably the most important real estate deal in the past three thousand years!!!!

    On Sunday September 4 I met the author of this article......
    that I quote above in post number eleven.....

    https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?e=__test_email__&u=e86da3a31358aa734376350b1&id=8fa840823d

    ...... and Mr. Siman Tov from Jerusalem has me genuinely worried that if America divides Israel....... America will be divided herself......
    a massive literal earthquake is one possibility if America goes ahead with The Abrahamic Peace Accords......

    but the POLITICAL EARTHQUAKE that we have seen since 2019 is a pretty good warning of how serious a thing that it can be to come up with a plan to divide the nation of Israel.... even if ones intentions are just about as pure as human intentions can be!


    Giving President Trump something even larger to accomplish than The Abrahamic Peace Accords.......
    giving him encouragement to build the Jewish people the Ezekiel Temple complex that sure sounds like a win - win - win - win proposal......
    may be the best way to get him to forget about all the time and effort that he and his helpers put into The Abrahamic Peace Accords.

    Mr. Aryeh B. has done an astonishingly good job of his book about the Ezekiel Temple so I quoted him in posts five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen and sixteen.......
    here in this discussion......

    The Christian Political Cyrus / The Audition and President Donald J. Trump.


    Here are two more articles that explain how the Abrahamic Peace Accords could well be terribly flawed.....

    https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?e=&u=e86da3a31358aa734376350b1&id=f9b84e033a

    There is even more on this theme here.....
    I've been hearing about disasters hitting America as soon as Yassar Arafat would step onto USA soil.....or when any President postulated dividing Israel....

    https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?e=&u=e86da3a31358aa734376350b1&id=38d78e7cea



    Here is one of the best videos out there that explains how seriously flawed The Abrahamic Peace Accords could actually be.....



    Rabbi Walker & William Koenig discuss his book "Eye To Eye" 09 29 2017

     
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    The building of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex could be the easy way to get to the positive future shown to Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel as well as to modern near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm.

    Does the construction of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex come before the time of the pouring out of the Holy Spirit on all flesh that will result in lions eating straw like an ox?


    "The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD." [Isaiah 65:25]

    Former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm was shown what that future world would be like. He said that God wanted to make this happen by 2185.


    [Howard Storm, near-death .com]






     
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    How does that comport with God giving aid to the Israelites in slaughtering every man, woman, child and animal in Jericho?

    Is God changing his mind about that?

    Does this have anything to do with Jesus coming and making Judaism defunct?

    Is having died really a proof of wisdom?
     
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    The people of Jericho and Canaan had gone so far into the occult that they were into cannibalism and drinking blood which put them in a place where even the Creator had no easy answer for their spiritual condition other than to treat them much like Sodom and Gomorrah got blasted.

    Actually... the people of Egypt were so far into witchcraft that just like the two sons of Balaam.... many high school students could turn a stick.... into a snake...... witchcraft is no joking matter. The words of humans have power.... that is actually what Abracadabra means!

    The people of Canaan were in a state much like former Satanist John Ramirez before he finally visited hell itself.... and then repented and gave his heart to Messiah Yeshua - Jesus.

     
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