Could the Foley Beheading Video Have Been Staged To Amp Fear?

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  1. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    Interesting article. It's not the first time our country did something like this, but as far as looking at it on a case by case basis, I wonder if this one can be placed beside the yellow-cake and bin Laden's terrorist mountain-bases.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/bill-gardner/11054488/Foley-murder-video-may-have-been-staged.html

     
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    OK. What's to discuss here?
     
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    Are we going to war on another FALSE FLAG??????????????

    Since it is obvious all the beheading videos were filmed in the exact same location on the same day , they were all staged the same way:

    Source: Paul Joseph Watson
    British forensic experts have concluded that the ISIS beheading video involving James Foley was in all likelihood staged using “camera trickery and slick post-production techniques.”
    An international forensic science company which does work for police forces across Britain found that, “James Foley’s execution may have been staged, with the actual murder taking place off-camera,” reports the Telegraph.
    The experts noted that despite Foley’s executioner appearing to draw a knife across the neck area at least six times, no blood is seen. The video itself does not show the actual beheading, merely a still image which purports to show Foley’s decapitated head resting on his body.
    “Aymenn al-Tamimi, a fellow at the Middle East Forum think-tank, remarked that ISIS has greatly improved their video production over the last few years,” reports the Inquisitr. “Techniques to fake a beheading would not be difficult for them to manage, and the video doesn’t exactly leave their failures on the hidden: Despite six slashing motion to James’ neck, no blood can be seen in the video; Foley’s reaction seems to be very disconnected with what is actually occurring, the analysts said.”
    This point was also covered in our analysis which emphasized how calm and collected Foley appeared to be as he read out his statement, a demeanor completely contradictory to the notion that he was about to be brutally executed.
    The experts also concluded that a blip in the footage suggests Foley misread one of his lines from the script and had to re-film the sequence.
    The obvious question that arises out of this is why ISIS militants, who have quickly developed a global reputation for their barbarity and carelessness for human life, would not simply have beheaded Foley on camera without the need to stage the event.
    The only logical conclusion, whether Foley was later killed or not, is that the video was not produced or released by actual ISIS militants but by western intelligence agencies to be used as a casus belli to expand military expansion in the middle east.
    For years we have exhaustively documented how so-called Al-Qaeda, Bin Laden and other terrorist propaganda videos were in fact produced by companies working on behalf of the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency.
    It has also emerged that the identity of the individual seen staging the murder, one Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary, is a former rapper from a wealthy family who left London to fight in Syria. Bary fits the profile of an informant for British security services.
    The beheading video has been used as a poster child to push for a renewed U.S. military strike on Syria, a prospect that was derailed last year after it emerged that a supposed chemical weapons attack which was blamed on the Assad government had in all likelihood been carried out by western-backed rebels.
    U.S. officials have cited the “new context” for confronting ISIS that was spurred by the release of the Foley beheading video, with Washington signaling its intention on Saturday to prepare a new military assault on Syria.
    In our analysis, we pointed out several other factors that clearly suggested the James Foley video was not what it purported to be, including the absence of other militants who normally appear in beheading videos, the lack of references to the Koran and no chants of “Allahu Akbar” as the execution is taking place.
     
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    James Foley was spotted cavorting with Elvis Presley in a honky-tonk in Mississippi...
     
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    is cavorting nasty !
     
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    Okay, so one Muslim killed him instead of another one? Big deal....he was still executed and that's all that matters.
     
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    no, thats not all that matters.

    If we're going to spend 5 billion dollars to kill people, we freakn better know who we're trying to kill and why.
     
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    Is it possible someone on this forum that has an actual BRAIN and can use it ! Glory Hallelujah !
     
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    If it is staged it's Obama's yellow cake moment.
     
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    His YELLOW CAKE AND WMD
     
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    The Guy in the following video ask some very provocative questions about this subject.

    [video=youtube_share;VUePdRb8QLk]http://youtu.be/VUePdRb8QLk[/video]
     
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    I don't think it really matters. We shouldn't be going to war over a couple of beheadings anyway. We'd be waging all sorts of wars if that was a good reason for war.

    Except no one is doubting the murder actually happened; it's just a matter of whether or not it happened on camera.
     
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    Funding the "Rebels" with the goals of taking out ISIS and Assad ( the real goal) already passed the House. When you openly fund the removal of a Countries leader you are already at war. Its just semantics at this point.
     
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    Well, we've been funding, bombing, AND sending in special forces for weeks. I'm just saying this hysteria around a few beheadings isn't a good reason to kick it into high gear and/or get a lot of public support for the war.
     
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    We have been at war for a while. The public doesnt want more war. Which is why they are trying to hide the fact we are already in one. Wouldnt want to wake up the public before the elections would you ;). THAT is what truly matters to our politicians. Nothing else.
     
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    Well, considering that ISIS's brutality is well-documented why would you doubt that the three (so far) executions of Westerners did not happen? Then again you see a conspiracy in everything, doubt everything and generally see what you want to see so that's really no surprise.
     
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    How long are the American people going to keep falling for this chitt. The people don't War ,well let's fake an event to give a little impetus.The people are so easily manipulated ,it's scary. It's been going on forever . We've got a hidden agenda for this War and it has nothing to do with some fake beheadings. How long do you think we can keep being the policeman for the Entire Planet. we already running out of people stupid enough to volunteer to go fight these bullchitt False Flag Wars . There's no doubt the draft is going to be activated again. I guess we going to lose another 5-10 thousand of our young men and women and another 50,000 wounded and mutilated that we can't take care of. Those people are not a threat to us ,we have the capability to know every time one of them takes a chitt. Wake up people quit falling and accepting this B.S. STOP THE MADNESS .
     
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    The victims and relatives of those killed on 9-11 would beg to differ. The victims and relatives of those killed in Islamist attacks in England would also, I suggest, beg to differ. You, of course, know better than anyone else. By the way, how are the space aliens on Mars doing? Carved any more statues or built any roads recently?
     
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    9/11 another FALSE FLAG .Over 2200 Architects and Engineers ( EXPERTS IN THEIR FIELD) say the evidence is irrefutable that WTC'S 1 ,2 , & 7 WERE BROUGHT DOWN BY CONTOLLED DEMOLITION and every Architect and Engineer that is made aware of the evidence agrees with the one's already signed up with A&E for 9/11 TRUTH. Now if you know more then these experts PLEASE ESPOUSE ! I guess as long as it's not your blood being shed you really don't give a chitt do you ,just like our lying Government !


    view Post # 11 PLEASE !
     
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    Oh boy
     
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    When done properly, yes. :)
     
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    If we all played more golf the beheadings would stop.
     
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    What's the purpose of a beheading video if you don't show the whole thing !! They're all fake . They're all alive .It;s another FALSE FLAG WAR !
    James Foley's Video is a Fake
    1) Zero fear and zero emotion on the part of the victim and the aggressor. He doesn't look or sound like he's about to get a knife zigzagging through his esophagus. When he "blames" his brother, there's zero emotion. No way anyone would be able to just read those lines so casually. At 3:00, when he says "I died that day John", with the pauses and everything... he sounds more like an actor trying hard to persuade the viewer rather than someone who is speaking their last words to their family. Watch it and think about it. And the british gentleman terrorist is coming across like they're on the 7th take of this video. No allahu akbar. No highly charged vocal timber, which is 100% the norm in all other beheadings you and I have seen since Nick Berg.

    2) Incredible sound engineering: Both the victim and the gentleman terrorist are miked, and the sound is really well produced. This is professional audio engineering. No other video out of syria and iraq comes near the video/audio quality of this vid. And there are a LOT of videos coming out of Syria and Iraq.

    3) No other terrorists around? If there were others around, as is ALWAYS the case in beheading videos, they would be all be shouting "Allahu Akbar" the SECOND the knife touched the throat. Notice the dead silence, which to me implies that they're alone, which to me implies that there is no (*)(*)(*)(*)ing way he wouldn't fight the gentleman terrorist with small knife. (small by beheading standards), which to me implies that this is nothing but theater.

    3) Where's the blood? Not only is there no blood after 6 or 7 saws against the neck when blood almost ALWAYS gushes immediately after 1-2 saws. Also, in the "dead body" shot, the blood on the ground is a mere trickle compared to the giant 3-foot in diameter pool of blood almost ALWAYS visible around the gaping neckwound. Another thing: At the very end, when the gentleman terrorist is showing off the next victim, his hands are perfectly clean, like he just got back from a manicure. No blood from the beheading he presumably just performed. No dirt from the desert, nothing. He must be carrying soap with him.

    5) They leave out the best part??? The most terrifying (remember this is supposed to be a TERRORist act) part of a beheading video is the part completely left out of this video. I know why. Because it's also the hardest part to fake. And this video is 100% fake. Fake fake fake. And, in comparison to the many dozens of videos Ive seen since Nick Berg, is wildly different from all of them.

    So what happened to James Foley? First of all, there is no more James Foley. There is one of three possible scenarios:

    1) He has joined the deep ranks of the CIA. Black Ops. Men In Black kinda (*)(*)(*)(*). Like Tommy Lee Jones sitting Will Smith down on a park bench and telling him that he's going to disappear. No more family or friends or anything. He's been reporting from the middle east for years and has been kidnapped before. He probably knows a lot about them. So the CIA made him an offer. First make this video so we can win hearts and minds and go back and blow Iraq up again, then we got some (*)(*)(*)(*) for you to do. You could do this for us, or we could return you to Isis and get a more realistic beheading video.

    2) Same scenario as #1 but with Mossad instead of the CIA.

    3) Stockholm Syndrome. He's become one of them. He's been embedded there so long, and has spent enough time with them for him to hate the US, and feel sympathy for his captors. And his captors know that he can help them. So they're keeping him alive, but "killing him off" with this fake propoganda vid.

    Or maybe it's something else. But I'll tell you this for sure: his head is firmly attached to his body. No doubts what so ever !
     
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