Culture of Shootings , "Thoughts and Prayers" But No Solutions

Culture of Shootings , "Thoughts and Prayers" But No Solutions.

There is a solution but Americans don't appear to be willing to do it. The solution is to identify the sociopaths among us and get them out of society. We used to do that. Mass shootings were rare back then.

 

Who on earthy is trying to take your rights away?? That is not the issue. The issue is that there are too many weapons around and we all see the results of that.
It is ablaut responsible decisions and actions and yes laws that must accompany this "right" to weapons. If one does not use , need a weapon (lethal item).....why have one when the risks are so high?? If one is going to obtain one.one better know about them. how to secure them safely Lessons on how to use one... not just learn by experience.
Being American should not imply living in a violence torn culture. ....where no one knows if one is going to encounter someone's' bullet that day.
BTW: Trump is autocratic by nature. Al bullies are.

 

I don't NEED to vote... but its my RIGHT. Same with guns.
If you think America is a "violence torn culture" you lead a very protected life. Spend some time in Islamabad, Syria, North Korea, Rwanda....
You must live in a very bad neighborhood.
Trump PROTECTED my 2d Amendment rights, as well as free speech, and more. He also made sure we could eat and fill our gas tanks without going broke.

 

I would never have used America in the same sentence as those you mentioned.....for comparison. America is or should be highly advanced & progressive by now.
It has had advantages that few other nations have had.... and privilege's too.

Maybe the fear of loosing what it has is the basis of this need for weapons .Although weapons are admired and bragged about. .The movies reinforce weapons and violence with monotonous regularity. The "tough " guys with weapons are role models for kids and adults and are very influential.om shaping the Psyche of individuals. So it becomes a self reinforcing phenomena.

Either way.. weapons have their place. Be it for the military or home protection..... they require very responsible handling.

 

No one argues that weapons require responsible handling. So do knives. So do babies.
America was founded by folks that wanted more out of life than they had... an adventurous and hard working group.

 

I’m just curious if you’ve ever familiarized yourself with the phenomenon of generalized imitation?

 

Why do you put "right" in quotes?
Do you suffer from some misguided notion that there is no right to keep and bear arms?

 

Mother of 6-year-old who shot Virginia teacher charged with gun crimes

The mother of a 6-year-old who brought a gun to his Virginia school and shot his teacher earlier this year was charged Monday with federal gun crimes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...exdTjCjev+EWDj2C3UIkqIbxs2O6vfgGENA3VQQEAAA==

Good!!

 

I'm so glad I live in a state with CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY. No registration or permits required. No waiting periods and no magazine capacity limitations. Our Governor also outlawed all the China Virus Tyranny regarding masks, school closings, business closings, separation and all the rest. We also have no state income tax, yet have a $30 BILLION state budget SURPLUS!!!

I love watching all you blue staters brag about how you have diminish each others rights. I LOVE IT!

TEXAS!!! WHERE FREEDOM LIVES!!!

 

Seven people shot outside a high school graduation ceremony in Richmond, Virginia

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/06/us/r...s24BvWsmOThSrfl6buBE+J/Ux&bt_ts=1686094103837

 

Too bad Virginia doesn't have Constitutional Carry. It most probably would have been less than seven.

 

Did anyone shoot back?

 

Culture of Shootings , "Thoughts and Prayers" But No Solutions

It is not a culture. It is sociopathy. Unlike times past, we allow sociopaths to run free in society.

 

In other news:

America Purchased over 1,000,000 Guns a Month for 46 Months in a Row

The hot market for firearms sales shows no sign of slowing down this summer. According to the FBI National Instant Criminal Background Check (NICS) data, this April was the third highest on record – dwarfed only by the record-setting pace set during the pandemic, and further accompanied by widespread social unrest.

April 2023 also marked the 45th month in a row that saw more than one million guns sold. That is especially noteworthy as tax deadlines and pending summer vacations traditionally slow gun sales – while inflation also remains high.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...1&cvid=8a7cb588f53d4bc8b68e1860e45b1412&ei=11

Good to see we're finally getting away from those rookie numbers.

 

All evidence points to the contrary.

More guns = more deaths. There is no getting around that correlation.

 

It happens every time there is a assault on the second amendment. You would think the anti-gunners would see that. We need get the focus on the shooters, not the tools they use.

 

Not so much.
https://wonder.cdc.gov/mortSQL.html

If you were right, the number of deaths would be a constant up-slope

Year Deaths Rate 10k Guns
1979 33,019 14.7 27007.2
1980 33,780 14.9 27266.4
1981 34,050 14.8 27538.8
1982 32,957 14.2 27799.2
1983 31,099 13.3 28054.8
1984 31,331 13.3 28298.4
1985 31,566 13.3 28550.4
1986 33,373 13.9 28822.8
1987 32,895 13.6 29074.8
1988 33,989 13.9 29340
1989 34,776 14.1 29618.4
1990 37,155 14.9 29954.4
1991 38,317 15.1 30357.6
1992 37,776 14.7 30781.2
1993 39,595 15.2 31190.4
1994 38,505 14.6 31575.6
1995 35,957 13.5 31953.6
1996 34,040 12.6 32326.8
1997 32,436 11.9 32718
1998 30,708 11.1 33102
1999 28,874 10.3 33486
2000 28,663 10.2 33859.2
2001 29,573 10.4 34196.4
2002 30,242 10.5 34515.6
2003 30,136 10.4 34813.2
2004 29,569 10.1 35137.2
2005 30,694 10.4 35462.4
2006 30,896 10.4 35805.6
2007 31,224 10.4 36147.6
2008 31,593 10.4 36730.8
2009 31,347 10.2 36812.4
2010 31,672 10.3 37118.4
2011 32,351 10.4 37387.2
2012 33,563 10.7 37659.6
2013 33,636 10.6 37918.8
2014 33,594 10.5 38196
2015 36,252 11.3 38476.8
2016 38,658 12 39952.8




And then, there's homicides, as "deaths" include suicides, an event un-relatable to the number of guns.

If you were right, the number of deaths would be a constant up-slope

Year Homicides Rate 10k Guns
1979 14,491 6.5 27007.2
1980 15,500 6.8 27266.4
1981 15,089 6.6 27538.8
1982 13,830 6 27799.2
1983 12,040 5.2 28054.8
1984 11,815 5 28298.4
1985 11,836 5 28550.4
1986 13,029 5.4 28822.8
1987 12,657 5.2 29074.8
1988 13,645 5.6 29340
1989 14,464 5.9 29618.4
1990 16,218 6.5 29954.4
1991 17,746 7 30357.6
1992 17,488 6.8 30781.2
1993 18,253 7 31190.4
1994 17,527 6.7 31575.6
1995 15,551 5.8 31953.6
1996 14,037 5.2 32326.8
1997 13,252 4.9 32718
1998 11,798 4.3 33102
1999 10,828 3.9 33486
2000 10,801 3.8 33859.2
2001 11,348 4 34196.4
2002 11,829 4.1 34515.6
2003 11,920 4.1 34813.2
2004 11,624 4 35137.2
2005 12,352 4.2 35462.4
2006 12,791 4.3 35805.6
2007 12,632 4.2 36147.6
2008 12,179 4 36730.8
2009 11,493 3.7 36812.4
2010 11,078 3.6 37118.4
2011 11,068 3.6 37387.2
2012 11,622 3.7 37659.6
2013 11,208 3.5 37918.8
2014 11,008 3.5 38196
2015 12,979 4 38476.8
2016 14,415 4.5 39952.8




TLDR:
Your correlation does not exist.

Never mind the fact that even if it did, it does not imply, much less prove, causation.

 

WRONG...
Harvard Study: Banning Guns Will Increase Crime (gunassociation.org)

 

America is a great experiment for those of us that live outside that bubble. Guns have removed all honour. Any moron can take the life of another with the flick of a switch, no skill involved. It's a utopia for the untalented, no offense.

 

Personally actually question the validity of such a right. It might have beenn necessary many years ago......but times have changed and there seems to be a lot of abuse of this right. Mankind should have evolved beyond the wild west mindset. We have a variety of sophisticated home security systems..... so "protecting" ones property does not really justify having weapons ........but that is just one opinion. Gun lovers/ owners obviously feel differently. And that is fine. Mind you .if folks' feel so insecure that they must carry weapons on them in general society.........the issue is much deeper than just "weapons"

 

Wow... when do you think free speech will become passe'? (Some of your liberal brethren think it already is.) How about the right to protest? Is THAT still relevant IN YOUR VIEW? Is freedom of religion still valid in your opinion?
You think there are no bad guys breaking into homes anymore? You really believe everyone is safe on American streets?
When seconds count, police take minutes... trite... but phrases like that get trite because they are true and are used a lot as a result.
"Gun lover" is a very silly phrase. No one loves a gun, any more than they love a hammer or a rubber mallet. We love our family, close friends, maybe God... but not inanimate objects. It is insulting to suggest that. But liberals insult conservatives as a matter of course.
I'm a gun owner and don't feel insecure at all. I live in a great town in Texas where crime is low. But I might feel insecure if I lived in a blue city like Chicago which is more dangerous than many towns in the Ukraine.
I do competitive shooting for fun. I am a certified gunsmith as a fun hobby... like the guy down the street that putters around with the '57 Chevy in his driveway. I do marksmanship and safety training for folks to help out. I've been known to go on a picnic in authorized areas and have some informal shooting contests with friends. And yes, I keep a gun in a drawer with my homeowners insurance policy. Hopefully I'll never need either one. But its good to know they are both there if I ever do.
You are certainly free to pass an amendment to the Constitution to do away with our 2d Amendment rights. That's how prohibition was ended, so it can be done. In the interim, I'll bask in the light of the Constitution as our Founders intended.

I love watching blue state liberal argue about our basic rights, like the Second Amendment. I was raised in New York and due to the military, have lived all over the country. Every time liberals start squawking about the Second Amendment, I am thankful I decided to retire in Texas here we have Constitutional Carry. Any legal gun owner can carry open or concealed, unencumbered by any registration or permit requirements, magazine capacity limitations, waiting periods, or any of the other silliness encountered in liberal areas.

TEXAS!!! WHERE FREEDOM LIVES!!!

 

Don't worry... no one will take the right to own a weapon away from you. It is far too late......and the gun culture is far to entrenched now. So technically any discussion becomes irrelevant. In the meantime the shootings continue..... and merely become statistics. The tragic component of this is that almost al l the shooters are mentally ill. So that suggests a serious flaw in the mental health services. The issue has many facets t it.

 

The US constitution says there is a right to keep and bear arms
The USSC says there is a right to keep and bear arms.
Your opinion on the issue does not matter.

 

Just becasue it is a right........ does not imply that you HAVE to own weapons. It is a CHOICE todo so.

 

So....?