Cuomo the Idiot Needs to Put a Sock in it

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Well now that you admit that you'd rather avoid actual thought on the subject.........
     
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    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Can you PROVE him Wrong?

    No one can.

    Until AFTER the Virus Abates (which could be several months or a year or more).

    Thus, the entire "premise" of your OP is riddled with fallacies.

    FACT--Nobody Knows what is going to happen

    FACT--There are Best Case Scenario and Worst Case Scenarios.

    FACT--Nothing can be proven (either way) until the crisis is over.

    In other words, YOU CANT Prove Him Wrong.

    So? What was the problem, again?
     
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    Idahojunebug77 Well-Known Member

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    In this case, trust is just an emotion. Fear is generally a much stronger emotion than trust.
     
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  4. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    If 80% infection rate is anywhere near accurate, then the mortality rate is exceedingly low.

    A death rate of 1% would equal a very large number of deaths in those areas where the disease has been present since fall.
    1% of a just a million is 10,000

    80% of a billion is 800,000,000
    1% of 800,000,000 is 8 million.

    Those numbers aren't consistent with anything being seen.

    So either the infection rate is low and mortality high or mortality low and infection rate high.
    It can't be both.
    Cuomo is a retard
     
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    That also means the claims cannot be substantiated...
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Every junior scientist knows that one does not have to prove anybody wrong.
    Coumo's statement must be proven right or the null hypothesis holds
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Oldest bullshit propaganda trick in the book.
    Nobody has to prove another wrong.
    The person making the assertion needs to prove his assertion correct.
     
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    Exactly.

    But, please, don't put such a burden on the shoulders of the naysayers. They will hardly bear it...
     
  9. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    He wont look at simple math because I asked him to.
    Now that's the funniest/ saddest **** I've ever heard
     
  10. Andrew Jackson

    Andrew Jackson Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, Steve.

    Maybe we get a Miracle and we get a Best Case Scenario?

    And (as you point out) if that happens, then Cuomo's "Doom and Gloom" will be proven wrong.

    And, on the flip side (for the same reason) nobody can discredit the Worst Case Scenario.

    Funny how that works.
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AJ, the issue isn't whether he's right or wrong but rather, what kind of a message is he sending out there? Telling his clientele that 80% of them are gonna catch this, and they're already overpanicing as it is - is not exactly the message people need to hear.

    It's especially worrisome because New York is always about one disturbance away from open rioting.
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Funny how an 80% infection rate with a 1% mortality rate would equal an astronomical number of deaths to this point. Nothing consistent with anything that has been observed.

    Now I realize that 10,000 deaths seems like a really large number to you, and leaves you quivering,............
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes. We entered the Twilight Zone for real last week. Trump and most Republicans were ready to pass UBI last Wednesday or Thursday and mail everyone a $1000 UBI check to get money to people who've had their jobs shut down without notice.

    Nancy Pelosi threw a wrench in the plan and demanded means testing....which I suppose "means" that everyone would have to apply and wait for the government to tell you whether you are worth $1000 relief, less than that, or none at all.

    She is still fighting and refusing to pass anything that would bring quick relief from peoples' current financial anxiety.

    Essentially, Trump turned into a Socialist last week and Nancy became a small-government penny-pinching Ultra-Conservative just at the time that people are worrying about going under for the first time in almost 100 years. The one time we need the government. Nancy says "No. Let's talk and talk and talk about it." Bureaucrats....good for nothing.

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    So?

    Just so I understand you.

    You are claiming that there will be no more that 10,000 Deaths traced to the Virus?

    That seems unrealistic (and incredibly low).
     
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    Have you ever, for one second, asked yourself why so many in the media dislike Trump so much?

    Like a lot of us who live around Palm Beach, a number of respected journalists met Trump prior to his becoming
    President and have a very good idea of what Trump is all about. It ain't pretty. He's not the kind of person you would want to stranded on a desert island with - and it's hard to. see him as a person who puts anything (like country) above personal gain.
     
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    I made no claim.

    Cuomo's statement has no connection to observation.

    And you can't see the inconsistency
     
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    All the governors got a hellova lot of pressure on them and maybe Cuomo has the most of any. I do feel for the guy, and all the governors. This shetstorm is a bad'n and they're letting themselves get psyched out.

    So I'm going to give him a pass but true leaders got to stop letting "Bleak House" live digitally in their heads.
     
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    I am not a huge Cuomo fan, but he is doing a great job here in NY
     
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    Huh?

    Then what was THIS (supposed to mean):

    "I realize that 10,000 deaths seems like a really large number to you"

    ^That would IMPLY that you think that the death toll would be capped at 10,000.

    Of course, 100,000, A Million, and 10 Million are also large numbers.

    Do you have a point?

    Or are going to talk in circles parsing semantics?
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    What your brain implies is your problem.
    How your brain comes up with "capped" is your problem.

    My post laid out the inconsistencies between Cuomo's assertion and observed numbers.

    Your inability to do a little math and recognize the inconsistencies is your problem
     
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    In a controlled environment as in your post, yes. But there are more far more voices and influences than Trump's alone, in reality.
     
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    Why? If that is what his experts and advisors are telling him, why should he shut up?
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    What numbers can you provide that show the infection rate is anywhere near 80% anywhere in the world?
    And if it is, what would be the corresponding number of deaths at 1% mortality?

    Thank you in advance for doing this basic math exercise
     
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    So personality over legislation?
     
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    We are all GOING TO DIE from the Fake News Flu!!!!!!!!!

    Prove me wrong. :bored:
     

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