DACA down the drain!

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  1. HereWeGoAgain

    HereWeGoAgain Banned

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    My solution
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-in-health-care-cost-us-due-to-sugar.508733/
     
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    Trump now says he will revisit the issue if Congress doesn't legalize DACA in the next few months. So much for that drain.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, they are calling rate of overturn, some kind of indicator of GOOD PRESIDENTING. When the king Birther, vowed to undo all that Obama hath wrought. So, they call Obama a failure, due to Trump's OBSSESSION with OBAMA.
     
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    given that over turned EO's somehow matter to you obviously you dont know what they are.
     
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    actually it is. you need to learn up on what is actually going on. https://www.brookings.edu/blog/techtank/2015/01/28/how-the-federal-government-fosters-innovation/ Cambridge and Oxford in the UK are now rated top because the brits have increased their research funding. your ignorance is going to destroy America.
     
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    lol, he is your bigoted *******.
     
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    zero evidence?
    Where are all these illegals working?
    You have certainly showed us all, you aren't adult enough to even engage in an adult conversation on the topic.
     
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    Let's see.... the local macdonalds, any restaurant in town, most drywall subs, lots of roofers, the majority of seasonal farm help.... I mean, there really is a list. So, now explain how a corporation that must be auditable for their use of eVerify are using illegals to augment their corporate staff. We'll wait.
     
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    But not give non resident aliens a Social Security number.
     
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    Did you miss the laws passed in multiple states that permanently strip business owners of the right to do business in a state if they are convicted of hiring an illegal immigrant? I believe Obama and liberals called it racist, boycotted the entire state of Arizona, and Obama took it all the way to the Supreme Court, where actual Constitutional Scholars told our most eloquent and intelligent President ever that yes, states do have a Constitutional right to regulate business within their borders.
     
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    Let's be clear. The DACA EO was unconstitutional. It is the job of Congress to address the problem. If the folks in Congress choose not to address the problem, what is a President who is operating within the framework of the Constitution supposed to do? The separation of powers is laid out quite clearly, and the executive does not legislate. Period.

    I believe that much of the problem with today's politics is the amount of disincentive there is to get anything done. If Congress actually passes something and the issue is taken off the table, what will lawmakers use in their reelection campaigns? No, from their perspective, it's much better to leave a problem in place and complain endlessly about it. Riddle me this: back when the Dems controlled the whole ball of wax (the presidency, the house and the senate), what did they do to solve the immigration issue? All of a sudden it's President Trump's problem? The actual problem is the number of people that will buy into that BS, and allow these politicians to keep on getting away with saying it. The ball is squarely in Congress's court, right where it belongs, and hopefully they'll get off of their butts and actually accomplish something. But excuse me if I don't hold my breath...
     
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    All of that seems to directly contradict the President's claims that he will intervene if Congress does not legalize DACA.
     
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    Our health care system wasn't the best maybe but it wasn't bad. It wasn't bad until the government got involved in it. I would say the Democrats with their signature Obamacare messed things all up.
    I don't believe in big government controlling things. The less gov. the better. Free enterprise health care is the best. Competition reduces prices.
     
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    So you have no solution to the actual problem. Glad you admit it. Thank you for being honest.
     
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    Pelosi: Trump says that he would sign the DREAM Act if it passed :roflol:

    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Thursday that President Trump agreed to sign into law a measure shielding young undocumented immigrants from deportation if it's passed by lawmakers.

    "We made it very clear in the course of the conversation that the priority was to pass the DREAM Act, that we wanted to do it in — obviously it has to be bipartisan," Pelosi told reporters. "The president said he would — he supports that. He would sign it."

    Pelosi said she spoke to Trump on the phone Thursday morning, and during the call asked him to tweet a reassurance to young undocumented immigrants brought to the country illegally as children that they would not be deported in the next six months.

    Soon after, the president tweeted that DACA recipients have "nothing to worry about."

    Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/house/3...that-he-would-sign-the-dream-act-if-it-passed
     
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    The government is not *often* a wellspring of efficiency and innovation. There are examples of it being that (NASA, DARPA, nearly any massive infrastructure we've seen since the inception of the nation) but that's not really what we are after. The solutions already exist; the problem is not going to be controlled by free market forces. The possibility exists for tiers of care even in single-payer. The 30,000 foot view could be as simple as comprehensive baseline care provided, with pay-to-play available to people who want more, different, better, alternative, whatever. This system is broken.
     

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