Daniel Penny to be tapped for Congressional Gold Medal by House GOP lawmaker

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  1. Zorro

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    This is very common submission in Jiu-jitsu, and while death is very uncommon, a good safeguard to make sure you don't kill someone without intending to, first is to release the hold before they go out, they will still be temporarily incapacitated, and if they do go out, lift both legs straight up while they recover.

    Now Daniel Penny needs to get straight the hell out of NY and go to Florida.

    Ron DeSantis tweets, “The acquittal of Daniel Penny is clearly the just and correct verdict. I must admit I was skeptical that a jury in New York City would reach a unanimous not guilty verdict, and the jury deserves credit for doing the right thing. Meanwhile, is there a worse prosecutor in America than Alvin Bragg?“
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's silly and it looks like a deliberate attempt to stir up discord for no reason.

    The courts made their ruling, so it's best to let people move on. Why fan the flames?
     
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    Heroes need to be recognized. This guy is a hero. He is one of so very few these days willing to stand up and do whats right despite adversity.
     
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    That would be a very good move. Alvin Bragg is a DEI scumbag and he needs to be investigated.
     
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    I must agree with you. But it's still a hilarious thread, no?
     
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    Melb_muser Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Snuff a violent black, get a medal.

    The new way.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    How about "snuff a violent person"? Does that work for you?
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly! If we see someone attacks people, we should start praying instead doing multi minute chokeholds, especially is the attacker is not White.
     
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    Yes it was and it was very clear. It is just that your side does not want to show the cold hard truth all in the name of "political correctness" and political propoganda that even Stalin would be proud of.
     
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    No it wasn't. And you are projecting.
     
  11. Alwayssa

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    And those on the train are not giving opinions, they are giving what they say and what he did. That works both for the Prosecution and the defense in a court of law. Only qualified experts can give qualified opinions on certain subject matters, like the ME for instance.
     
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    It just so happens that alleged qualified experts are still open to bias
     
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    Not a violation of anything. Commonly, a judge dismiss a charge either based on evidence presented in the court. We had the lesser charge, a gun charge, that the judge dropped because it was never presented in the case. And that is what happened here. And it is quite common for a lesser charge, like manslaughter, to be considered as well as 2nd-degree homicide as well.
     
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    that is what cross examination is for. And both sides can cross examine the other side on their expert witness.
     
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    Do they offer medals if they ain't black?
     
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    That won't stop the bias. Just illuminate it for those interested. Which the left rarely is.
     
  17. Moolk

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    Only time will tell. Don't care. No one fears being called racist anymore. Dems overplayed that card lol. I called that 10 years ago that it would lose its meaning.

    As usual, I was right.

    If Penny were black there would never have been a charge.
     
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    Oh my!
     
  19. Alwayssa

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    IF a case is dismissed for whatever reason, that person is never cleared. It is why it helps Trump, or anyone else, in the short run, but not in the long run historically 100 years from now. Hence that is Trump's problem. But he cannot be cleared with his Civil Fraud trial guilty verdict and he cannot be cleared of his criminal business fraud trial in which he is found guilty. The only thing left is sentencing and that is on hold for the time being and probably so until after 2028, if he is still alive and not pass away due to natural causes.
     
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    100 years from now it's no one's problem
     
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    When you are a witness, you are to tell the truth, not give opinions, unless you are a qualified expert witness under the law. Those who were eyewitnesses at the event in question will tell the jury what they say, not what they think. that works both ways and why we have cross-examinations in the process. This is law 101 stuff that even police and crime drama shows get right every once in a while. Thus, not controversial at all.
     
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    Except for the historians. Historians today are debating the reagan administration and its Iran contra Affair issue with some 200 or more Reagan Officials who either pled guilty or were found guilty of crimes in that situation. Some of them were granted pardons. Fine, but that legally means they cannot be tried again, but it also means that historians have looked into the affair even though most of the participants have either died or are elderly,.
     
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    Finally went and had a gander at the video. The guy was in the hold for at least 3 minutes. Once Neely's leg swinging slows and then stops, he should have released or at least untightened the hold.

    I don't think he intended to kill the guy (maybe he did, we aren't mind readers), but he did cause his death. As someone who has held another person in a similar hold, you can tell when they go limp. You can also reduce the pressure on the neck without letting go (incase the guy is faking it) but you can feel the guy breathing and you can feel the breaths getting smaller and shallower.

    Ultimately though, it's going to be harder and harder to convict on crimes like this because people think he did a service to the community. Whether he did or not is not up to me, but buddy has to live the rest of his life knowing he squeezed the life out of someone else.
     
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    Which is meaningless. Who cares. People will remember history however they ultimately choose to. And most won't remember it at all.
     
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    When you go act violently towards people, you should expect violence used on you. When violence is involved there is always a chance of death. His death, is his own fault.

    We need more heroes fighting back. Violent criminals should fear victimizing society.
     
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