Did Iran conduct underground nuclear test on Saturday night?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/worl...red-earthquake-in-region-suggests/ar-AA1rMSMT

Not enough is being made of this very concern turn of events here.

https://news-pravda.com/world/2024/10/06/777062.html
The explosion/earthquake lines up with past underground nuclear tests...



This is bad.

Israel will likely interpret this as a nuclear explosion/test and react accordingly. Which will be more of a response than they were likely planning. And hell, this is also a red line for America.

This changes everything now. Why are we not talking about this?

 

Let's say Iran tested the bomb. What are we going to do? Invade a country of 80m people?

We've had two admins woof about Iran (Trump, Biden) and it doesn't seem likely Harris or Trump has an answer.

Even Trump keeps his mouth shut about some stuff.

 

Israel is going to deal with this with or without the United States. But now we are talking about an administration that routinely chants "death to America" becoming nuclear.

I'm fairly certain this is a red line.

 

You're citing Pravda (lol!) and some Indian fly-by-night via MSN, and the Indian thing doesn't cite anything specific with any links or other specification of sources (just "A report claimed" and "Another report has claimed").

Looks like fake news fodder for social media, and here you are getting all excited, having a knee-jerk reaction and spreading it as its publishers intended.

 

"Pravda"???

OK...let's back up here...not exactly credible source.

 

I also quoted MSN. Which are saying the same thing. That there was an unnatural earthquake under Iran which resembles previous underground earthquakes created from nuclear tests.

"An earthquake of moderate intensity occurred in Iran and Israel on Saturday night, October 5. Strangely enough, both the countries experienced the earthquake at a marginal difference in the timing. In such a situation, it is being speculated whether Iran has conducted its nuclear test."

"A report claimed that the earthquake in Iran occurred very close to the nuclear power plant, so it cannot be said whether the shock was due to an earthquake or a nuclear test.

Another report has claimed that the earthquake in Iran could be an underground nuclear test because its center was at a depth of only 10 km from the ground. In such a situation, the speculation about Iran's nuclear test has deepened."

 

The people who work these things out (and none of them are in the media) will know soon enough. It is no longer possible to hide nuclear tests - North Korea couldn't. Seismic data is only one indicator. Even underground tests apparently leave other evidence that monitoring stations will pick up.

We will see.

 

Do you think Israel will "wait and see"?

Or do you think it's much more likely that they will proactively destroy and reset Iran's nuclear abilities?

 

I don't recall saying 'wait', but I'm not surprised you inserted it all by your little self.

I hope Israel will consult people who have access to reliable data & analysis before they make a decision because I'd like to think they are responsible people & not a bunch of excitable children jumping up & down at speculative media reports.

Of course, Netanyahu might decide that speculative reports without proof are sufficient cover for him to do something he very much wants to do, knowing that there is a segment of opinion in America that will support literally anything he does, no matter how foolish or nasty.

If he does that and evidence suggests there was no test I wouldn't be surprised if information leaked that there was no test. In that case I expect the usual suspects here to defend him and probably keep pretending a test has happened.

None of this is really about what is happening so much as it is about some people's emotional responses to what they think is happening or want to happen.

 

No, it's an Indian outlet published through MSN, as I pointed out. When the sources are Indian and Russian, I take a wait-and-see approach. Let's see if any legitimate sources say anything about it. Otherwise, I'm not going to worry about it.

Russia publishes disinformation through Indian outlets, from what I've seen. Probably some money changing hands in exchange for that.

 

Iran is a signatory of the NPT, has attacked no one in three hundred years and threatened no one with nukes.

Israel, on the other hand was established through terrorism, has attacked all of its neighbors, refused to sign the NPT and repeatedly threatened or blackmailed Western countries with nukes.

I think that you're worried about the wrong threat.

Iran is the only thing keeping Zionists from seizing Lebanon's Litani River basin and the rest of "Greater Israel".

If any country needs a nuclear deterrence from warmongering Zionists and demented Islamo-phobes hungry for WW 3, it's Iran.

 

Ya. No thanks. **** Iran.

 

They’ve launched hundreds of missiles and drones on Israel. Twice. Wtf are you talking about “they haven’t attacked anyone in 300 years”? it hasn’t even been 1 week. Lol!


What BS

 

Israeli strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities would cause 'local contamination'

He raises an interesting point here, namely that Israel attacking Iran's nuclear facilities would likely send oil prices skyward. Of course, if that happens, the same guy who wants us and Israel to go in guns a-blazing will blame Biden and Harris for those higher prices as well. Maybe blowing up Iran can wait til after the election?

 

I don't know. I haven't be able to look at the raw data from the possible nuclear explosion.

I do know Iran has a nuke if they want one. More likely a deterrent against Israel using nukes.

 

More Western, pro Israel MSM? No thanks...

I've been to Iran and studied it's history for over sixty years.

First, it's essential that you remember why the US has any enemies in the Middle East:

“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”– John Sheehan, Society of Jesus. (Jesuit priest)

The degree to which Zionist lobbies control US Middle East policy is obscene and rivaled in its destructiveness only by a blatantly pro Zionist bias of Western MSM

If you were better informed, you would know by now that "Death to America" does not mean what Ziono-Media wants you to think it means:

"In Iran, ‘death to America’ doesn’t mean what you think"
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/w...eans/31910553/
https://www.pri.org/stories/2015-08-17/iran-death-america-doesn-t-mean-what-you-think-it-means

EXCERPT ""Death to America" expresses the anger many Iranians feel about U.S. policy toward Iran, said Foad Izadi, an assistant professor of world studies at the University of Tehran. Iranians remember that the U.S. overthrew the legitimate government of Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953 and supported the dictatorial Shah who followed.

The slogan "means death to American foreign policy," said Izadi. Iranians "have problems with the American government, not the American people." In fact, he said, Iranians are friendly to Americans. "When you walk around town, and people see you're an American, everyone wants to take care of you."

Those two sharply different understandings of the chant parallel a wider disagreement between Iran and the U.S. over foreign policy in the Middle East. The U.S. sees Iran as an aggressive power, supporting terrorism in the region. Iran calls the U.S. a superpower that threatens military attacks on Iran and its allies."CONTINUED

 

First, how many times has Israel attacked Iran or its allies before 7 October 2023?

You haven't the vaguest idea, do you?

How about Israel's attack on Iran just this April 19th ?

I know, if it's not on Western, pro Zionist MSM, you don't know it.

- "Assessment of Israeli Strike on Iran near Esfahan"
https://isis-online.org/isis-reports/detail/assessment-of-israeli-strike-on-iran-near-esfahan

Retaliatory attacks are not the same as starting a war.

Most of the planet including the world' ethical Jews are sickened by Netanyahu's blatant genocide.
Any country that tries to intervene in such a blatant genocide as the one in Gaza should be supported.

The following source lists just Israel's attacks on Iran since 2010.

Read and Learn.

"Timeline: Israeli Attacks on Iran"
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/2022/aug/11/timeline-israeli-attacks-iran

EXCERPT "Between 2010 and 2024, Israel allegedly conducted dozens of operations – including targeted assassinations, drone strikes, and cyberattacks – on Iran. The attacks increased in both range and sophistication. Many of the targets were connected to Tehran’s controversial nuclear program, which Israel has long considered an existential threat. In 2022, Israeli drones also reportedly hit two facilities linked to Iran’s increasingly advanced drone program." CONTINUED

 

Iran wants to be a middle power with influence throughout the region with Shia Muslims. Not everyone on Iran's borders are thrilled.

 

So Iran attacked Israel twice and you said that Iran hasn’t attacked anyone. Why are you trying to BS us with obvious made up crap?

This is the point where you say sorry for BSing, thank you Tipper for correcting my BS for me. I’ll try not to do it again in the future but no promises because I really hate Israel

to which I’ll say yeah no **** you hate Israel. You hate em baaaaaddddd

 

No, the source you chose to ignore, "Timeline: Israel Attacks on Iran" outlines multiple (not two) Israeli attacks on Iran dating back to 2010. Iran retaliated just a few days ago.

Yes, a retaliation is a type of attack so, technically, Iran has retaliated / attacked another nation in the last 300 years.

"What I should have written was:
"Iran has not started a war in 300 years." which remains an irrefutable fact.


Re:

Now that I've clarified specifically what I meant to say, it's your turn to support your slanderous lie: "...you hate Israel. You hate em baaaaaddddd"
Show where I have condemned anything about Israel other than its right wing government's criminality.

So, I will gladly admit to an inaccurate choice of words.

Now, it's your turn to show where I've ever expressed hatred toward Israel or retract your slanderous lies.

 

Thanks for your refreshingly mature and thoughtful observation.

I can't think of a single country that does not want at least some influence throughout its own region.

I think that among Iran's objectives is to keep Israel's expansionist Zionists from seizing Lebanon's Litani River basin and the rest of "Greater Israel".

The Iranians know that as long as Israeli lobbies control US Middle East policy, just containing Israel's fervent expansionists is a full time job.

 

Jewishpress is now echoing the same sentiments.
https://www.jewishpress.com/news/mi...have-been-nuclear-test-explosion/2024/10/07/?

Is the Jewishpress also trying to push Iranian propaganda?

 

if only Trump didn't break the deal we had with Iran...

 

It looks some people has serious memory problem, they forgot that only this year Iran twice attacked one small Middle East country with missiles.
They forgot that Iran multiple times called for destruction of Israel (1), (2)

They forgot that Iran was involved in bombing Israel embassy in Argentina (3)

They forgot that Iran is theocratic country ruled by Islamic clerics, who run the country according to religious laws. Gays are executed and women wearing ‘indecent’ cloth are beaten to death (4) (5)

So why some people are so eager to defend Iran? Read their posts and you will know.



(1) Iran’s President Hassan Rouhani on Saturday called Israel a “cancerous tumour” established by Western countries to advance their interests in the Middle East.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018...lls-israel-a-cancerous-tumor-in-rare-outburst

(2) Iran leader says Israel a ‘cancerous tumor’ to be destroyed
https://apnews.com/article/a033042303545d9ef783a95222d51b83

(3) Iran and Hezbollah responsible for AMIA and Israel embassy bombings, Argentina says
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-796678

(4) UN: Iran Responsible for 'Physical Violence' That Killed Mahsa Amini
https://www.voanews.com/a/un-iran-r...violence-that-killed-mahsa-amini/7520833.html

(5) Iran purportedly executes 2 gay men over sodomy charges
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-purportedly-executes-2-gay-men-over-sodomy-charges/

 

This has nothing to do with that bullshit deal. That bullshit deal only allowed access to one site, while off site the development could continue. It would be akin to only allowing police to search one pre arranged room in your house to see if you committed a murder.

Don't be an idiot.