Did the lockdowns work?

Global deaths...



As you can see even though we had a vaccine and lock downs for all of 2020/21...the death toll didn't severly drop off until imediatly after Omicron dropped. There was a huge spike at the start which still didn't rival the spikes seen while we had vaccines...and then once everyone got the damn thing and most everyone survived...the death count has dropped right the **** off.

No...this wasn't because of people getting jabbed 12 times.

Anything else?

 

Oh and incase you were wondering...the case count hasn't drastically changed. Just the severity. People are getting it...nobody is really dying from it.


Because it worked better then any *******n vaccine.

 

Should also be noted that right now...mask friendly Japan is currently leading the crop with infections.


Virus gonna do what virus does.

 

But the spike shows when omicron hit, that was the huge spike.
We had been opening things back up at that time. And the spike hit.
There would have been a similar spike before that, but the lockdowns flattened the curve.

 

The spike was due to Omicron's crazy infection rate. Lockdown or no lockdown it was gonna spread. We all got it. We all got over it. Do you see any difference in the infection rate after the huge initial omicron spike AFTER we opened up? Shouldn't it be higher now that we are open and not wearing masks? (It's not). It's slightly lower.

I can see the data. It's fairly evident that through all of 20/21 WITH lockdowns and vaccines it did **** all to the infection rate/death rate.

Omicron was the game changer.

 

Of course it was going to spread. High spike with no lockdown. Flattened curve with lockdown. But since it wasn't as deadly and people were fed up with lockdowns, there were far fewer lockdowns.


This chart you posted earlier show what flatten the curve looks like. That long near flat wave of covid thru 2020/21

 

If that were true why is the infection rate same or lower now that we are opened up and not wearing masks? And please don't say because of the vaccine. None of those prevented infection ffs. Only severity (supposedly).

If lockdowns indeed worked...then what we should see right now is a new normal after the spike that's larger then it was during lockdowns.

So. Did you wanna try again?

I mean I can tell you why the infection rate is idling at a new normal which is slightly lower then what it was during the masks and lockdowns but you don't wanna hear that it is because omicron...

 

Because it's mutated to a less severe virus.
As most all virus' do.

If they become more severe, typically they die off by killing off those infected.

 

That's my entire point. The vaccine and lockdowns didn't flatten ****. Didn't stop ****. The infection rates with these new variants isn't any higher now then it was with lockdowns and mandates. And these variants are just as infectious. We got through this because the virus did what virus does.

 

I guess I'm going to answer my own question but I think people are saying that vaccines in concert with the milder Omicron means people were going to get infected anyway (hence the surges in cases) BUT the early lockdown prevented a much deadlier surge.

Maybe somebody could clarify this. Just in helping me put the facts together.

 

We currently have covid varients floating around that are as contagious as the alpha strand or worse. Infections rates are not higher now that the world is no longer locked down and masked up the ass. So ...what do you think? You think lock downs worked?

 

I think you are confusing how contagious a virus is with how deadly. A very contagious virus but with mild symptoms is nothing to worry about. On the other hand an extremely deadly virus (like ebola) kills off the hosts before they can spread it too far.

COVID-19 is the dreaded "middle ground" in deadliness. Extremely contagious but not too deadly to kill off most hosts before it could spread. The perfect storm if you will. This makes MORE people vulnerable to an early grave compared to say... the seasonal flu.

 

You are confusing what I am staying.

The INFECTION rate hasn't gone up as we've eased lockdowns. Or mask mandates. What we should be seeing is higher normal average of more people getting the virus now that less protective measures are in place.

But that's not what we are seeing. With absolutely no protective measures social distancing or lockdowns...the average seems to be either the same or slightly lower than it was for all.of 2020/2021 where the world went full retard on lockdowns and masking while destroying the global economy.

The game changer wasn't the vaccines. It wasn't lockdowns or mask wearing. It was omicron.

The virus evolved as virus's typically do, to a less deadly more contagious version of itself.

 

INFECTION rate. Not death rate. We are not seeing a higher degree of infection rate now that social distancing and mask mandates are lifted.

It's the same amount of people getting it as it was with the stupid lockdowns and mandates.

If the lockdowns worked. We should now be seeing a new normal of infection rate that is noticeably higher then when it was during the lockdowns.

 

You mean Biden is to blame for the agreement that the Trump (mal)administration "negotiated" with the Taliban?

 

Cite? Facts? Source?

 

I just showed you the data. Ive been able to interpret the data. Not sure what more you want? You can see both our infection rate and death rate with vaccines pre omnicron and you can see these rates post omnicron. You can see our current infection rate without lockdowns and how it compares to our infection rates with lock downs.

 

The fear mongering was all a hoax, dude.

You have now entered into a paradox.

[1] The virus does what the virus does (thus, by definition, it can't be controlled).
[2] The virus can be controlled.

Which is it?

Are you writing an additional verse to the song Imagine by any chance?

 

Much of the virus is caught because of Brownian motion, why health care workers use P100 respirators.



You should stop posting misleading information on the forum. I'm pointing out your misinformation to get people who might benefit from the truth to do enough research to find it.

A stupid comment illustrative of why I'm ignoring the rest of your post.

 

Of course they 'worked'. That's why people with medical emergencies (not COVID) were still able to be treated.

You don't want to know what the healthcare system would have looked like had lockdowns not happened. It was bad enough with the lockdowns .. knife edge stuff. But at least we were still able to treat emergrncies and serious illness, and that was the point.

 

Brownian motion doesn't catch viruses, nor does it change the size of viruses, nor does it change the size of mask pores.

 

I work in a hospital .. and let me just that say you're flat out wrong. You have no idea how bad it was.

We were overrun. Look up 'bed block', if you don't know what it means.

 

Because a significant proportion of people will either never know they had it, or don't bother testing.

 

Preserving hospital capacity is why many lockdowns were undertaken. I can't keep track of what happened in fifty states and many more cities.

Lockdowns can slow the spread of Omicron as well, but the need to preserve hospital space is far less with Omicron because the symptoms are milder.

I can't speak to the problem with retaining healthcare staff. My own family physician retired in 2020 because of covid, so it at least has my attention.

I'm afraid you're on your own about the lockdowns and their motivation to protect hospital capacity. I don't take what the pols say about lockdowns at face value, so quite a study would be necessary to be defintive.

 

Your hospital is not all hospitals.