Dip, Doritos and drinking: Why the Army can’t get in shape

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I think they should go back to giving this away.

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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    unless the dip has sugar in it, it's not the cause of obesity - but yes, nasty habit

    they need to offer keto MRE's and meal options - low carb is the way to go - and the government needs to stop feeding soldiers seed oils

    excessive carbs and seed oils are the reason for America's Obesity problem
     
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    MREs are not designed for day to day use. They are for use in a combat environment where one burns a lot of calories.

    And carbs are required for people in combat, as that is essentially the reserves that one burns when the normal day to day calories are expended. That is why most marathoners and other long distance athletes start "carbo loading" a week before an event.
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So identifying as 'fit' doesnt cut it? Oh the bigotry...
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes, and keto MRE's would be lighter, have more energy, not cause blood sugar drops like the high carb ones do

    high carbs are not required, that is a myth

    "Animal-Based, Ketogenic Ultra Runner Crushes 100 Mile World Record ft. Zach Bitter"

    https://hvmn.com/blogs/podcast/episode-129-ft-zach-bitter

    why would you be against addl options, especially those that show positive results
     
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    I have several cases of MREs. There was a lot of organizations handing them out all over town after the hurricane in September which tore us up. I have them put away for emergency food or camping or anytime I might just want an MRE.

    There were so many of them around town you would have had a hard time giving them away. I like to take the chemical heaters and put them in a gatorade bottle and screw the lid on.... A nice little pop. Lol
     
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    the truth is getting out there

    https://www.army.mil/article/229120/ketogenic_diet_useful_or_not

    A recent study published in Military Medicine concluded that "U.S. military personnel demonstrated high adherence to a ketogenic diet and showed remarkable weight loss … without compromising physical performance adaptations to exercise training."
     
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    I dunno about that. The physical demands of someone deployed or in the field are quite a bit different from someone in garrison. When you are eating MRE's, you more than likely need the calories.
     
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    I don't disagree with that, but they need to start with the dining facilities, not MRE's.
     
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    I agree, but offering keto MRE's also needs to be done
     
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    I don't know why the soldiers are obese today. Is the food different today? I don't think so. They always had candy and stuff, right? Going back years? Decades?

    In the early 20th century, people were scary-thin by today's standards.

    But now we must cut out the few luxuries our soldiers have to be healthy? Screw that!

    There are two reasons people get fat. Overeating and hormonal disorders. Maybe we should be looking at the environment first before cutting out everything. It may not solve anything but make our troops unhappy.

    I hear that the troops suffer from mental health disorders more so than the general population. Maybe it's something in the medicine? They don't know jack about how these mental health drugs work. They just found out that it helps one day and went with it.
     
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    Or it could be that mental health declines as more people have access to being screened for it. Most mental illnesses are on a spectrum. Everyone is a little crazy sometimes, when stress is high enough or brain chemistry is off, as happens to everyone at some point. It could just be that standards of diagnosis are just getting more loose. Then, I suppose they might get prescribed something that wasnt necessary that ends up creating a new condition or exascerbating a 'borderline' one.
     
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    95% of the food at convenience stores is incredibly unhealthy. This is the world that we live in. It's called 'freedom'
     
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    Rare red meat, potatoes and beer are the keys to long life and health.
     
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    And fresh fruit. But yeah, pretty much.
     
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    With a bit of practice you can balance that beer on your gut.
     
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    Beer is good. I assume you drink sugar free kool-aid with a picture of a snowflake on the pink envelope?
     
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    You perhaps forgot that I'm Australian...

    Added sugar is a killer. You won't get any praise from me.
     
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    Praise? Who mentioned praise? What are you talking about?
     
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    I mentioned praise.

    You mocked sugar-free.

    Sugar free drinks are generally healthier, regardless of how you characterize them. Woke probably. Fruit and juices are an exception.
     
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    yep, alcohol and fructose are processed by the liver in the same way.... and sugar is half fructose

    the addl problem with sugar is you don't get drunk, so may drink more of it than would alcohol, and we give it to children
     
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    I don't eat and drink for health.I eat and drink for YUM.
     
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    Talking heads have been fussing over alcohol and tobacco in the military for years now it seems. The military runs on nicotine and booze and energy drinks and even with our nasty habits we are still by and large in better shape than the overwhelming majority of the American population. Which is why 77% of the fighting age citizens in America are ineligible for military service because they're fat or get their feelings hurt by words in 2023.

    But by all means in this age of recruitment and retention crisis to where 3/4ths of the population can't even join the service and we can't pay enough bonuses to keep the troops we have on active duty go ahead and piss off the ones who are still around by banning dip and booze from the Shoppette.

    At this point I seriously am just sitting back and laughing at all of this. Never in my life have I actually seen with my own eyes a better example of the road to hell being paved by good intentions than what's going on with our military right now. Go ahead and tag this on to it as well, I vote yes for this proposal.

    Few years ago I made my buddy a nice retirement gift. He was a Soldiers Soldier, the type the average person thinks of when they hear "Soldier". Army Ranger, scroll not tabbed, multiple deployments with the Rangers, wounded warrior with shrapnel still in his neck, transferred jobs to come to our neck of the woods and excel there as well and became infamous and one of the best among us. I got him a custom gift outlining his career with his portrait on it and attached to it was a little hammer and message that read "In case of emergency, break glass". Him and I were talking on the phone the other day about how things are going now and he said "Yeah man you remember that gift you gave me? I mounted it above my fireplace but I threw the hammer in the trash".

    Don't blame him. We all see the writing on the wall. When I'm gone don't call me either.
     
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