Director Wray in contempt of Congress over Biden doc alleging crim

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  1. StillBlue

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    https://news.google.com/articles/CB...ZXJ5LXNjaGVtZS5hbXA?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en
    I find myself in contempt of Congress.
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Besides Clinton and Biden, can I get a list of who is above the law.

    thanks
     
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    So, let me get this straight. Are you opposed to the director of the FBI retaining possession of material from an active investigation after showing it to a congressional committee that requested to see it? That you believe that he should relinquish possession of said material in a fashion that the FBI never does? Personally, I suspect that the Congressman's purpose is to actually shield the president from investigation but he is confused as to who is actually president now.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your thread would fit nicely under the heading of a thread I started after McCarthy finally won the Speaker's gavel. "The chaos is over, let the chaos begin."

    There are not serious people in pursuit of a stronger country. They are ass clowns in pursuit of publicity.
     
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    Kevin McCarthy, Jim Jorden, Scott Perry, Andy Biggs, and Mo Brooks all Republican members of Congress refused to honor Congressional subpoenas concerning January 6.
     
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    WRAY CLAIMS NO FBI CENSORSHIP AS GOPERS PRODUCE SUPPRESSED POSTS: 'FBI Director Christopher Wray tangled with a bunch of Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee today.'

    'FBI assaults on the First Amendment rights of millions of Americans was just one of a bunch of issues on which Wray repeatedly hid behind the “ongoing investigation” and “continuing litigation” evasions.'
     
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    Why would they.... The committee was not legal or constitutionally valid...the select committee did not have the authority to issue subpoenas to the lawmakers under House rules.
     
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    Please show us the law or statute that prohibits Wray/DOJ from turning over or disclosing anything to Congressional oversight.
     
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    The most performative moment came when Rep. Darrell Issa (R, CA) asked Wray to give him a number of how many government agents participated in the 1/6 riot. Doing so knowing it is the FBI's policy not to comment on such matters publicly. Wray did offer to provide Issa with the FBI's official declaration made to a court of law that contains the answer Issa was looking for,.................

    The F.B.I. had as many as eight informants inside the far-right Proud Boys in the months surrounding the storming of the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, recent court papers indicate, raising questions about how much federal investigators were able to learn from them about the violent mob attack both before and after it took place.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/us/politics/fbi-informants-proud-boys-jan-6.html

    ................or was he? He must know the FBI's policy so he knew Wray would decline to answer the question. Which is what he wanted to happen, playing it up for the cameras. He wasn't looking for an answer, he was looking for a refusal to answer so he could have a "gotcha" moment to be hyped on right wing media.

    Orchestrated, yet inconsequential, performances like this is what the POT has been reduced to. Cheap tricks for the consumption of the minions to feed their insatiable need for horsesh*t.
     
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    Everyone already knows that there were FBI informants inside the Proud Boys group. That is not relevant to the question asked. Informants =/= government agents. In fact the FBI has continuously stressed the fact that they were NOT government agents.

    Additionally, there is no valid reason to withhold whether or not there were government agents hidden at the 1/6 riot and how many. Knowing that does not jeopardize any investigation by the FBI what so ever as it does not even slightly identify anyone in a crowd of thousands.
     
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    Now if we could just get folks from both sides to apply the same standard to their side that they hold the other side to, we might just be on the way to an ethical and just government.

    But if we continue to only see wrongdoing when it's done by our opponents, we will continue on exactly as we have and all be worse off for it.

    For example, you cannot condemn Trump's corruption if you do not acknowledge Biden's. And you cannot condemn Biden's corruption if you don't acknowledge Trump's.

    I mean, you can, but a quick look at these forums just shows that when you do, all you get is folks yelling at each other and a whole lot of pretending.

    But that may be hard to do these days. Because of the internet and 24 hour news, people are actually emotionally attached to these political parties and politicians. Folks defend them indiscriminately like they're family. Tribalism at it's best doing it's worst.
     
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    Congressman A commits a felony. As head of the doohicky committee he demands that the FBI turn over to him all evidence of his crime. Should they?
    They let Congress see the actual evidence, why on God's Earth do you believe that they should release the actual evidence to their possession?
     
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    The Supreme Court decision that got very little attention, the statute of limitations of the sexual assault case hadn’t expired meaning Jim Jordan could be—will be—deposed.

    The university’s internal investigation concluded the sexual assaults were an open secret, its staff knew of them, and turned a blind eye. Jordan has publicly maintained he didn’t know contrary to multiple victim testimony in the case.

    Nonetheless the SC determined the clock hadn’t run out and Jordan will finally have to testify under oath. This is a big deal in his district and his hold on his sear could be nearing its end.
     
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    WHAT, INDEED? Turley: Wray’s playing Americans for chumps — so what will Congress do about it?

    Turley hammered Wray for an “obviously false” response:

    'Despite the near total lack of substance, Wray did make one surprising denial. He insisted that the FBI does not engage in censorship efforts, focuses only on “foreign disinformation,” and does not pressure companies to censor others. Those denials are not only directly contradicted by the recent 155 opinion of a federal court and the Twitter Files, but a new release from the Twitter Files and journalist Matt Taibbi.'

    'Wray said that “…The FBI is not in the business of moderating content, or causing any social media company to suppress or censor.” He then added that these companies are not under any pressure in making their own decisions whether the censor people or groups flagged by the FBI.'

    'The statement is obviously false. The FBI maintained a large operation of agents actively seeking the censorship of thousands.'
     
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    Christopher Wray Is On Of Trump’s Biggest Failures.

    Also Trump's weaponizing of that evil vile dwarf, Fauci.

    'Trump didn’t do much Swamp-draining at the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Specifically, he didn’t fire FBI Director Christopher Wray.'

    “Former Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund reportedly has asserted that the protest crowd was filled with federal agents. Are you aware of his assertion?”

    “I am not,” Wray said.

    'Seriously, this guy’s in charge?'

    'There is no way that Wray isn’t aware of Sund’s claim about January 6. It’s the FBI’s job to be aware.'

    'Chris Christie recommended Wray to Trump in some advance sabotage.'

    Wray admitted that the investigations into the parents yo objected to COVID lockdowns 'were launched without solid evidence to justify them.'

    'The FBI moved on from that to targeting Roman Catholics at Mass.'

    'Wray reports to an attorney general who is hell-bent on revenge because Republicans kept him off the Supreme Court. They’re doing double duty to interfere with the 2024 presidential election by protecting the Biden crime family and working overtime to destroy Trump and keep him off the ballot.'
     
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    That is a straight up lie.
     
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    Show us us the law or statute that prohibits Wray/FBI from revealing investigations or evidence to Congressional oversight
     
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    You really think there's an active investigation into Biden's bribery and extortion scheme?
     
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    No two Wrays about it -- something stinks

    'The House Judiciary Committee is investigating why the FBI spied on emails of leading Republican congressional staff members.'

    'Yet Just the News reportedly has the subpoenas and states they were dated Nov. 20, 2017, with the materials to be sent to the Department of Justice by Dec. 5, 2017.

    'Wray began his tenure in August 2017.'

    'It is hard to imagine such an extraordinary move being taken without the director’s knowledge. So Wray is either engaging in willful blindness or failed to exercise control of his own department.'

    'Subpoenaing the records of members of Congress or their staffs is a direct challenge to the oversight and legislative functions under Article I of the Constitution. The FBI knew Google would withhold notice of the subpoenas for five years.'
     

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