Do you believe in the Holocaust?

I am starting to think you're not really serious about securing the existence of your people, first you allow your sister to "downgrade" then you choose a mate on looks! Everyone knows that to ensure ze existence ov ze white race a mate should be chosen for her ability to have lots of children, her strong constitution and her commitment to ze fatherland, oops sorry got a bit carried away then.
The girls you have chosen look like they would be incapable of producing much more than 5 or 6 children between them!

 

I second that.

 

There is no doubt that a holocaust took place.

But the number of six million can be deceiving as it first appears in 1911. See conservative Ben Hecht's book Perfidy where he writes that it was Zionists who were willing to see this many people sacrificed if it would lead to the creation of Israel.

Again, Hecht was a conservative.

No one should attempt to diminish that tragedy in any way. So let's set the historical record straight.

 

And I suggest you start with rejecting the " 6 million was quoted in 1911" as having any relevance whatsoever. That 6 million number has be rather thoroughly examined by hundreds of scholars, notwithstanding the denier morons insisting it couldn't have been that high.

AS for Kastner, I am not surprised that you consider his actions/non-action as a sweeping generalization of Zionism. BTW Hecht' wasn't just a conservative, he was a jew. Another classic denier tactic.

But of course you shouldn't try to diminish the tragedy in any way, especially while you are attempting to do just that.

 

Did you actually read the book? Do so before criticizing.

In the book conservative Ben Hecht quoted from the Zionist congress of that year. It may not be what you want to believe but if what he wrote wasn't accurate he would have been criticized for doing so. But he wasn't.

 

What should I do? Force her to marry a white man? Not of my control...

Aryan looks. Purity.

hehe.

Why do you say that? They are pure Aryans.

 

Lies...

 

He quoted a number of people throughout the book. Which quote from the Zionist congress of that year are you talking about? who said what?
do you even know or are you merely parroting propaganda?

Seems the 10,000 trucks for 100,000 jews was never a real offer that could have been rejected by the eville Zionists.

There isn't any question that there were some pretty radical Zionists running around, but they did not represent the majority or anything close.



it is irrelevant that Hecht is a conservative.

 

I dream that one day a man will be judged not by the color of his skin but by the content of his character. To paraphrase MLK.

Seems to me that when assessing the character of racists, the ONLY measure can be the content of that character, not their skin color, because racism can be found amongst all peoples.

Personally I think that reliance on the superiority of the accident of one's birth is not much of a positive contribution to character content.

 

I just don't think diversity and multiculturalism should be a government policy. I am in agreement with MLK.

Okay.

Me too.

 

diversity of the biosphere is necessary to its health.

yet you rely on your accident to shape your world view.

 

You agree with MLK that a man should not be judged by the color of his skin, yet you call your sister's marriage with a non-white a "downgrade".
Where is the logic in this?

 

Conservative Hecht wrote the truth. Go read the book and you will have the answers you are seeking. Don't be afraid of the TRUTH.

 

So you can't provide the quotes you referred to.

I thought as much.

 

I've given you the source. Are you too afraid of looking it up yourself? After all, Google is your best pal.

 

That is a half truth. The white race has enough diversity within it to exclude other races or not need them.

Reality. You don't think that race/diversity causes social problems?

Not when it comes to dating and interracial relationships or with immigration policy.

Yeah. I do have some racial biases. However, I said that I respect the guy and I am not disowning my sister for marrying him. I think he is a great guy but I dislike his race because I think it will be better if she says with her own.

 

So did a lot of people who weren't Jewish, not that many people have that come to mind when discussing it.

 

As long as written or unwritten laws exclude something from being discussed I think it is unethical to talk about it at all - as well as to "remember" or to commemorate it. As long as this is the case, people believing into what is called "master narrative" of history could read about the "Haavara-" or "Transfer-" agreement or the roots of race hygiene, then called "Eugenics". That can lead to an assessment about the trustworthiness of that so called "Master Narrative", no more, no less.

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/Eugenics-and-the-Nazis-the-California-2549771.php
http://waragainsttheweak.com/
http://www.yadvashem.org/odot_pdf/microsoft word - 3231.pdf

 

No, its simply truth.

No, I think people who differentiate themselves by their accident of birth are the cause of social problems.

Of course it does, your bigotry notwithstanding.

So, you admit that the content of his character is what you judge him on, but his race is subject to your bigotry.
I haven't met many racists that aren't raging hypocrites but of course, can't recognize their contradictions.

 

I have read the book.

What I want to know is the specific quotes from the Zionist committee you were referring to.
Apparently you haven't read the book, merely the synopsis on CODOH, IHR, or any number of other denialist and jew hating sites.

Now can you produce evidence of your claim, or are you going to respond with yet another evasion?

BTW, I am well aware of the fact that there were, and are, a small minority of some pretty crazy Zionist radicals.
But their more radical opinions have never been part of official zionist doctrine.

 

A hundred bodies crammed into a space the size of my bathroom depletes all available oxygen in minutes. Therefore any introduction of diesel fumes will very quickly kill those in the room.

IDNeon, you are beginning to grate me with your hypothetical nonsense. Therefore, I will put you on ignore until something constructive comes from your brain.

 

Lol do we believe in the holocaust? It's a fact. It's not a theory. It's like asking if we believe in the Super Bowl or Wednesday's. Those are things that happen.

 

I read the d.a.m.n. book 30 years ago when you probably wasn't even born yet. How the hell can you sit there and pretend conservative Hecht was a Jew hater? You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about and didn't even the damn book.

 

So you overcame your bias with this one guy and differentiate between the individual and his race. That's a start. Why not apply the same concept to other individuals? Would you prefer a white man with a slightly less pleasant character for your sister?

 

I am 61.

I never "pretended" Hecht was a jew hater. He wrote a book about Kastner. He is a fairly prominent jewish scholar.

those jew hating sites picked up the book as a "look see how perfidious the jews are/were?", which is not surprising since massive generalizations from anecdotal instances is a hallmark of bigotry.

Now, you were the individual that made the claim about the Zionist congress.

I called you on it, and this is now our fourth exchange where you have refused to provide any quote or evidence of your claim.