Do you suspect that natural cures for cancer are suppressed?

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Do you suspect that large companies suppress truth about natural remedies?

  1. No, that is ridiculous and absurd!!!!!!!!!

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  2. Sure....we all have an evil streak in us!

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  3. Yes, but misleading information on supposedly natural remedies is even worse!

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  4. My doctor would never do that!!!!

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  1. DennisTate

    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The book, The Miracle of MSM was written by three physicians. That webpage is a summary by them:

    http://www.msm-info.com/#Autoimmune

    I get the stuff at Walmart for $9 a bottle of 120 or 160 capsules.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't remember if I ever added the Rick Simpson research to this thread so......…


    http://phoenixtears.ca/super-oils/
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What do you think of drinking a glass of water with a teaspoon of baking soda added to it daily?

    It is low cost...... and might at the least have some placebo effect..... and perhaps even more than that?


    http://www.politicalforum.com/healt...nnot-survive-presence-high-levels-oxygen.html
    Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen
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    My wife's father was diagnosed with prostate cancer a few years ago.

    While he was still in Ecuador his physician advised him to begin to take baking soda and water as part of his improved nutritional back up to his treatment.

    Now that he is in Miami his physicians are SHOCKED that his blood test are showing essentially ZERO CANCER CELLS!

    My wife and I have both began to take baking soda and water on a regular basis.


    https://sites.google.com/site/ganodermareview/the-root-cause-of-cancer

    THE ROOT CAUSE OF CANCER - Noble prize Winner Dr. Otto H Warburg . Dr. Warburg has devoted his life to study the causes of cancer.


     
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    From someone in the Medical Field.

    Yes, completely, without a doubt.

    Why?

    Chemo-Therapy has shown to be effective against two types of cancer.

    We use it to treat 67 types of cancer.

    Electrical Therapies have shown incredible results in animal trials since I started grad school. Never made it out of those trials.

    Why?

    They didn't give us a reason, they just halted the research.

    Check the cancer rates among electricians and then among the general population. I didn't believe it, until one of my professors told me to look for myself.

    Do you think Big Pharma want's you to honestly get better? No... You are their business. If they wanted us to get better they would stop manufacturing things like Oxy and instead promote the usage of less addictive substances that are equally if not more effective than Oxy. They would stop using Chemo on cancers it is not effective against. They would stop prescribing Adderall in a method that is almost pushing drugs onto people. The Nazi's figured out what happens when you prescribe excessive amounts of Amphetamines, look up "Pervatin Epidemic of WWII" violence, psychosis, and other nasty things always follow soon behind in a seemingly controlled increase, until things begin to deteriorate nearly instantaneously for no apparent reason other than they can. The same with the Ancient people of Crete, the substance was a plant that is now extinct (It's believed they caused it to go extinct), they abused it, the same symptons occurred, the same outcome occurred.
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I so thank you for this brilliant and bluntly honest reply to this controversial topic!!!!

    Your words illustrate perfectly why I have gotten rather addicted to this type of discussion forum since 2003!
     
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    I copied and pasted your excellent post over to this other discussion:
    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=444650&page=2&p=1065934267#post1065934267
    Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen
    ........

    Do you have any idea of whether or not perhaps the electricity therapy assists the blood or body to absorb more oxygen?
     
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    How many physicians let their patients know that this would be a good thing to add to their diet once they have been diagnosed with cancer........ or that they may prevent cancer in a certain percentage of cases?

    Behind the scenes.... how many sales people for Big Pharma are exerting pressure on physicians to not tell patients about their full range of options.

    For example.....
    http://glyconutrientsarevital.blogspot.ca/2006/08/dr-ben-carson-glyconutrients.html
    Dr Ben Carson-Glyconutrients
     
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    And I got one of those 100 mph carburetors to sell you that the car companies suppressed so the oil companies could make a lot of money...................:roflol:
     
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    Up here in Canada I heard of one near Bridgewater, N. S. and another one in Moncton, N. B.

    If the stories are true.... I have to wonder if somebody snuck those out there deliberately so that at least some people would know what was possible.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/science/394228-ocean-acidification-4.html
    Ocean acidification... (post #32)....
     
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    The proper question is how many nutritionist, GP's and oncologist are generally not nutritionist. And most certainly the apricot farmers are perfectly free to sell their apricots on that basis and the vitamin manufacturers the same. And if there is a compound in apricot there are PLENTY of phama companies who would LOVE to extract it and put in pill form so you don't have to eat all those apricots every day to get the benefit.
     
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    Well, as I alluded to, usually conversations in this direction enter conspiracy theory territory, but there are cases where a technology is bought and kept out of the market for ulterior motives.

    Other times, a regulatory agency is bought off by a company and used to block competition that has an innovative product.
     
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    The entire premise of your OP is a conspiracy theory. Give us some examples of this revolutionary product or technology that was kept out of the market for ulterior motives. I don't recall that horse traders kept the technology for cars off the market, or the railroads bought the Wright Bros. plane and kept it off the market, or the whale oil producers kept petroleum oil off the market, or the natural gas producers kept Edison's light bulb off the market.
     
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    An example of something similar to this was when General Motors had electric cars on the market, but they essentially sabotaged this niche, so that it wouldn't catch on. It's not so far as keeping technology out of the market, but it is a manipulation of the market to keep consumption on conventional technology. "Who Killed the Electric Car?" goes into great detail on this. This is about what happened in the 90s, although the market has finally changed some since then.
     
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    people have to remember, cancer cures are often like Prayer

    1000 people get cancer, they all try the cure, one lives, the 999 will say nothing about it not working, but that 1 will tell the world it worked
     
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    A personal story:

    My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer last year. It was a fast growing tumor and she underwent 20 chemo sessions to shrink it so it could be operated on.

    Well, that was done and it really drug her down. She was hospitalized 4 times during that period.

    She had a mastectomy in January. Scans are clear but doctors want to do radiation to make sure. She starts that on March 15.

    Okay, now to the point of the thread. Cancer can often be treated the first time around, but most recurrances are drug-resistant. We've been looking for something to help ensure it doesn't come back.

    To that end, we've settled on using black seed oil. None of these alternative products have had the human testing that happens with pharmaceuticals but, short of that, there seems to be a lot of research done with this oil. It is not advertised strictly as a cancer cure, but as an immune system booster that is helpful in several ways.

    Anyway, that's where we're at now. We both take it, she at a higher, more therapeutic dose. Me just for prevention and maintenance. Hopefully it does some good.
     
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    Thank you for this information.

    I haven't read about black seed yet.

    Here is something that might help and it only costs about five dollars per year!

    http://www.politicalforum.com/healt...nnot-survive-presence-high-levels-oxygen.html


    Cancer cells.....cannot survive in the presence of high levels of oxygen

    My wife's father was diagnosed with prostate cancer a few years ago.

    While he was still in Ecuador his physician advised him to begin to take baking soda and water as part of his improved nutritional back up to his treatment.

    Now that he is in Miami his physicians are SHOCKED that his blood test are showing essentially ZERO CANCER CELLS!

    My wife and I have both began to take baking soda and water on a regular basis.


    https://sites.google.com/site/ganodermareview/the-root-cause-of-cancer

    THE ROOT CAUSE OF CANCER - Noble prize Winner Dr. Otto H Warburg . Dr. Warburg has devoted his life to study the causes of cancer.


     
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    Yes..... I saw that film and I think that you are correct that that was what was being done!

    The comparison fits perfectly!

    How many doctors have made their patients aware of this book..... written by two research physicians:

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B002JF1MZ6/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1


    The Miracle of MSM: The Natural Solution for Pain Kindle Edition

    by Stanley W. Jacob(Author)

    .... Here is a one page summary of the book.... www.msm-info.com/

    MSM is available at Walmart for about ten dollars per bottle which lasts my wife and I two or three weeks when we are both taking 5000 mgms daily or more.
     
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    Pardon me for my idealism but I was hoping for more physicians to take the high road.... as I believe has been done by Dr. Leo Rebello, Dr. Stanislaw Burzynski, Dr. Otto Warburg and Dr. Stanley W. Jacob author of.....

    http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B002JF1MZ6/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?ie=UTF8&btkr=1

    The Miracle of MSM: The Natural Solution for Pain Kindle Edition

    by Stanley W. Jacob(Author)

    ....Each of us should have a conscience......… and if an M. D. looks in the mirror and wonders if he is biased as he recommends products on which he earns high commissions... yet he or she suspects that a low cost and potentially better alternative is available...… Then that M. D. should show courage.........… and ruffle some feathers.... and take some risks on behalf of their patients!
     
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    I don't think thats how it works. The medical profession are just susceptible to spin, like everyone else, the reminders and presence of drugs is always in front of them and the medical model is basically find a pill that will adress an ailment.

    That said, I would like to see some well documented case studies on your baking soda cure ... or any other alternative miracle cure. You also need to know why it works .... otherwise you have no idea whether you have a cure or not.
     
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    I'd personally rather find Stan Meyer's Dune Buggy :p

    One tank of water, one trip to Texas from Ohio.

    I do believe his son Stephen just sold the buggy and the idea for the motor to VW, there was something about it on the local news this year.
     
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    Ahh there are electric cars on the market, the public in general just doesn't want to purchase them ans if a company developes one that does meet normal driving needs at an affordable price they will not be "suppressed" from building and marketing it.
     
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    Yes, I've heard about baking soda. Haven't started a regimen of that, though I am aware of the benefit of alkalyzing the body.

    We do take apple cider vinegar, which has many health benefits. Oddly enough, though it is is acidic in itself, it has an alkalyzing effect when taken. I recommend taking it because of its many benefits. Be sure to use organic acv with the 'mother' if you go with it.

    About black seed oil; it has been said it cures everything but death itself and has been used for thousands of years, though it seems to be relatively unknown in the West.

    I've read some interesting things about tumeric extract, though I've never tried it.

     
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    The market has opened up to electric cars now, but it wasn't before a lot of manipulation of the market held them back for a while.
     
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    Yes...… and there are now some pretty amazing plans for low cost production of electricity....

    www.solarroadways.com/
     

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