Do you think the anti-Trumpers actually BELIEVE all the things they say about him?

An NY jury on an incredibly spurious charge brought by a left wing DA who proclaimed his opposition to Trump many times. I didn't say they were heroes, where did you get that from? I think you just proved my point.

 

No sir, I'm not kidding. Biden policies were a continuation of the Obama policies which were appeasement of both Putin and Iran.

 

You epitomize my comment. You are literally the poster child for all things stupid with leftists.

 

I would say that the vast majority of anit-Trumpers believe all the stuff they hear. They have been brainwashed. I don't think that all of them do. They are just being good Democrats and going along with the party line.

 

A court ruled he was, and showed the evidence, so it would be irrational not to agree.

Not a nazi, a fascist. He's bragged about his fascist plans. When someone tells you who they are, you should believe them.

Again, he's bragged about that.

And even the Republican senate said he was colluding with Russians. It's very irrational to deny such well-proven things.

The anti-Trumpers make reason-based decisions. That's why we can back up anything we say, and why the Trump fans always end up deflecting with conspiracy theories.

The Trump fans are projecting their own habit of mindless party propaganda consumption on to their moral and intellectual betters. They're so indoctrinated, they can't even imagine that another human might not be similarly indoctrinated. They never look at independent sources, so they assume normal people also have to behave that way.

That is not the case. Trump fans, we are not like you.

You know what to do now, Trump fans. Same thing you always team. Scream hysterical insults, and vomit out deranged conspiracy theories.

 

Firstly I would say that's a civil claim that was blatant lawfare and he is challenging it. Secondly which fascist plans/destroying democracy are those exactly, please show us the quote? Thirdly do give us the quote from the senate, because the Mueller investigation said there was none?

 

Is Bidden just a victim of circumstances, that 13 months after he became President the
war in Ukraine started??

Or did it take time to get the weapons funding approved by Congress, get the weapons
from warehouses to the docks, sent to Poland, trucked or trained into Kyiv, sent out
to the front lines, put into use on Feb 19 2022, and then finally Russia sent in peace
keeping forces on Feb 24th 2022, oh and a force toward Kyiv to cause the UAF to
withdraw forces from next to Donetsk.

That rapid force was withdrawn after the peace treaty was agreed, and then
rejected by the US and UK.

 

Donald Trump was the US President for four years, and showed no signs of the things
the Democrats have been accusing him of.



Bidden (does as he is bidden) has been President 3.5 years and NATO has stated it
is talking about bringing nuclear weapons out of storage and getting them ready
for use. We are shipping 2,000 pound and other bombs to Israel, and trying to get
a war started with China or N Korea or both.

Can anyone guess why it is claimed Trump is the danger to world peace?

 

Enlighten us.

 

Because if Trump lost in 2020 then Biden would get in and
there would be a lot of wars.

 

he is a danger because of his enemies. the political establishment is his greatest foe and it has already shown the lengths it will go to in order to eliminate him. despite the many claims by various politicians that they would "drain the swamp", trump is the only one who not only ran on that platform, but actually tried. his election made a lot of people nervous enough to weaponize nearly every aspect of government. it's a short step from that to destroying the peace as a means of destroying the man.

 

Or conversely do Trumpers believe he’s a stable genius, who would build a wall, have the greatest health care system, rahdy dahdy BS?

 

Rapist? I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised. He clearly has that kind of attitude towards women (all too common of his generation) and the self-importance to act on it.

Nazi? Obviously not politically, but he is an authoritarian nationalist which I guess is where that comparison comes from. FYI, not a term I'd generally use anyway.

Destroy democracy? No, but that's more about my faith in democracy than Trump's intentions. Again, he is an authoritarian and has all but stated that he will circumvent democracy if he finds it inconvenient.

Russian spy? Not literally because he isn't smart enough. That's the real problem though, since he'd be all too easy for more talented operators to manipulate him.

There is a difference between something being used as a political strategy and something being true (especially in US politics). I agree that the way insults like this are flung around (in all directions) generally aren't effective ways to shift political opinions, but that doesn't mean there can't be elements of truth behind them which, considered more calmly and rationally, could be cause for concern.

 

No, I think they are actually very aware of his multitude of failings, they are happy overlook them because he is the epitome of "anti-woke"

He's a playboy, I mean he actually appeared on the cover and dated the divine Karen McDougal.
But he wasn't an authoritarian last time, he didn't abolish any freedoms or civil rights.

 

He’s anti woke? A racist and misogynist?
A serial philanderer who’s not too fussed about disenfranchising voters?

 

What is "woke" ? ?

What is Anti Woke ? ?

Please reply,

Help, please
I Don't get it :/

 

The fact that you think Anti-woke=racist and misogynist is why people vote for him. Yeah sure he's a philanderer but so was JFK and many others. Who is he disenfranchising exactly?

 

it’s surprising that Trump voters are in favour of racism and misogyny.

“In the 2020 general election, Georgia voters favored Democrat Joe Biden over then President Donald Trump by a razor-thin margin of 11,779 votes, leading Trump to demand Georgia’s secretary of state change the results of the election. He didn’t, but Georgia’s Republican-dominated legislature — amid a torrent of disinformation about the 2020 election spread by Trump and his supporters — passed a law in 2021 limiting many of the options voters used the year before.
….
The law, SB 202, drew immediate condemnation, particularly for a provision that makes it illegal to provide food or water to those waiting in line to vote. “
https://publicintegrity.org/politic...nder-attack-in-georgia-as-state-turns-purple/

 

Woke is “aware, conscious, evolved, inclusive, politically correct”.
Used by many as a pejorative.
Anti woke “Seen by many on the right as an insidious liberal outlook emphasising race, gender and sexuality”. And Critical Race Theory.
https://www.economist.com/united-st...are-losing-many-of-their-school-board-battles
“In 2021, the right became increasingly irate at what it described as “wokeness” but which tended to mean any attempt to engage in civil rights or social justice. In 2022, anti-woke became an ideology in itself, an attempt for the right to rebrand bigotry as a resistance movement.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/dec/20/anti-woke-race-america-history

 

To a degree. Rapist? Grains of truth. He bragged about what amounts to sexual assault in the access hollywood tape. Many women have accused him of sexual misconduct. And a jury found "more likely than not" he sexually abused Carroll. But is he officially a criminally convicted rapist? No.

Nazi? It's just a pejorative word for an authoritarian these days. He doesn't seem to want to exterminate jews or take over the world, but he expresses admiration and jealousy towards authoritarian leaders ability to do things like silence the media.

Destroy democracy? Yeah I think he wants to. I doubt he thinks he could, though. He just tried to cheat to win the last election, possibly because his narcissism would not allow him to see that he truly lost.

Russian spy? Russia really did want him to win. Most certainly does this time too. There was at least an attempt at collusion. There was the steele dossier which ultimately didn't pan out as verifiable. Maybe back then some thought he could be a spy, but not many. Probably almost nobody these days. But does Russia love Trump and Trump love Russia? Yes.

Yes, he's a terrible person who advocates for terrible policies, but some "truthful hyperbole" gets applied to him.

 

It was Trump who schooled them on paying what they agreed too. Adults don’t try to wiggle out of their commitment. Now they can’t spend enough after Russia attacked.

 

“It’s nice to get along with somebody who has a lot of nuclear weapons,” he told the crowd as he bragged about his relationship with Kim Jong-un.
Dear Heavens! And you want him elected?

 

How is that limiting their voting? Saying they have to bring their own snacks?

Wokeism is nature of victim politics where groups use imagined wrongs to try to denigrate and gain advantage over other groups.

So no, no and no. I agree, Russia would like Trump in power as he might change US policy to the Ukraine but that's not his fault.

Well that seems good advice at the best of times

 

Changes to absentee and early voting, changes to vote counting, changes to local election offices, changes affecting the local election board and several other changes. If you are really interested you can read them yourself.
As I said, used as a pejorative
KJU is erratic and paranoid. Trump is also. He should be kept away from North Korea.

 

I think most do believe it. But most are die hard democrats That a majority of Americans view all this talk about Trump being a dictator, out to destroy democracy, etc. is nothing more than the normal negative personal attacks, normal campaign propaganda rhetoric in search for votes by getting the voter to hate the other guy more than they hate your guy.

I find it interesting in that CBS had a poll out a couple of months ago which asked the question Democracy and the rule of Law will be safe…34% answered if only Biden wins, 33% if only Trump wins, 13% doesn’t matter, safe if either wins, 20% democracy and the rule of law won’t be safe either way, it doesn’t matter who wins.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-trump-leads-biden-economy/

Seems both sides view the other side as out to destroy democracy which only if their side wins can democracy be saved. Perhaps a simple way to put this is democrats believe if Trump, he’ll use the power of government to make him dictator for life. But republicans believe the democrats are using the power of government to destroy and eliminate all political opponents and opposition. Lawfare. Now those who aren’t pro or anti Trump aren’t buying any of this. Most of those dislike and don’t want neither Trump nor Biden as the next president.