Does Kamala Harris and the Democrat party want you to have high energy costs?

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  1. Joe knows

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    I believe that their position on drilling and oil in almost all Democrat controlled states shows hostility to cheap energy. In California they have tried to hide the rising costs of energy by charging based on income. In other words the richer you are the more you pay per KWh of electricity. This obviously hurts the middle class while handing another freebie to the people who refuse to better themselves.

    The Democrat goals with energy is to make it high then hide it under the shrinking middle class. Not only that, they likewise want you to pay more and more for oil to make you go to electric cars and heat. Many green energy advocates see Harris as their extreme ticket to prosecute the oil industry out of existence. Here is a few articles.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/02/kamala-harris-oil-industry-election

    https://cleantechnica.com/2024/08/0...-may-go-after-big-oil-for-climate-crimes/amp/

    the democrats are attacking free speech. They want to sue people for misinformation is what they claim but in reality they want to sue anyone who disagrees with them and knowingly are pushing this while knowing it will lead to higher costs for oil or natural gas. This is a horrible move for our economy.
     
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    If fossil fuels are painfully expensive, and they can point to how much "better" electric cars and solar panels are, of course they'll jack with fossil fuel expense.
     
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    The Democrats would like the fossil fuel prices to be as high as they can get them, so long as it doesn't knock them out of office.

    If they can sue people for exercising their First Amendment rights, that will be another weapon they can use against those who disagree with them. The Democrats have become an authoritarian party. They denied their own primary voters when they refused to let anyone of substance run against Biden. Then, after the voters picked Biden, they forced him out of the presidential race because "He couldn't win."
     
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    The only reason they are painfully expensive is because we aren’t doing our part on inventory
     
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    I see mention of lots of things that Democrats supposedly do, by not a single "why". Why would Dem's want to raise energy prices? To lose elections? Or is it so that THEY CAN DESTROY THE WORLD FOR THEIR NEFARIOUS PURPOSES!!!! </sarcasm>.
     
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    Lying is part of free speech.
    But that also can be a crime if the lies cause real issues.

    Are you for letting liars off the hook?

    Anyway, NO, high energy prices is not the goal.
     
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    Are you also stating liars should not be challenged and it's OK to lie?

    Is this thread that want's to protect lies is because the MAGA always lies?
     
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    They are clearly hostile to anything but their unicorn fart fantasy form of energy
     
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    I don't see where he has been hostile. Cautious yes.

    And production remains where it is because the oil industry is still trying to bring prices up to recover from their covid losses.

    There has been nothing to inhibit more production if they want to get more energy.
     
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    Then what are they doing to bring the down?
     
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    They don't control how much production the world energy companies produce. Not even the USA one's.

    What the heck are you talking about?
    You want the gov't to force companies to up production and reduce profits?
    What happened to free market forces?
     
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    Briefly, the answer is "yes" -- and among 'progressive', hyperliberal Democrats, this is nothing new. Way back in 2008, Comrade Obama was singing the same tune about making Americans pay greatly increased prices for energy.

    Link: https://www.politico.com/story/2012/04/uttered-in-2008-still-haunting-obama-in-2012-074892#:~:text=Here's one line that President,electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.”

    I still can't believe that we ever elected this jive-ass clown to any position in the Federal Government....
     
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    What is the Biden administration doing to bring down energy cost?? Obviously since they aren't and you can't show anything they are doing to make the absurd claim that government policy has no effect on the matter. Then why do we have a department of energy and a green energy bill?
     
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    The only thing the America-hating clowns in the Biden regime have really done to bring down fuel prices was to drain off enormous quantities of the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve. The did it in 2022 to 'jolly everybody along' a few months before the elections that year, and they've done it already again this year, too.
     
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    There's no need to interfere.
     
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    So you can name nothing the Biden administration is doing to insure our oil and gas future and ability to supply ourselves?

    And if no need to interfere then why have Biden and Harris been draining our strategic and emergency reserves?

    Thanks for admitting they have done NOTHING and I will add in fact everything to could to curtail it including Biden's first EO's in office and their continued and loud threats to anyone even thinking about investing in our oil and gas futures, we will bury you.
     
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    I see you're back to making up nothingburgers.

    You wanted to know what they're doing to lower prices. The producer's control the production. And they can produce more if they choose. Right now, they simply choose not to. The get higher profits from higher prices.

    Harris has done nothing to sign any bills. It's not a job of the VP. You seem confused on how things work.
     
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    I see you're back unable to make an argument. They produce more when they can get the return they need to invest the money and and aren't being threatened to get shutdown by the leader of the country. They produce more when the leader of the country doesn't shutdown and regulate them out of business.

    Again you can't cite ANYTHING Biden and Harris have done to lower our energy cost and in fact have been forcing HUGE sums of capital to be invested in their GREEN ENERGY dreams further driving up cost as those programs continue to show the fallacy they are.
     
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    The United States produced more crude oil than any nation at any time, according to our International Energy Statistics, for the past six years in a row. Crude oil production in the United States, including condensate, averaged 12.9 million barrels per day (b/d) in 2023, breaking the previous U.S. and global record of 12.3 million b/d, set in 2019. Average monthly U.S. crude oil production established a monthly record high in December 2023 at more than 13.3 million b/d.
    https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=61545
     
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    • US oil production hit a record of 13.4 million barrels per day last week.
    • The EIA predicts global oil consumption will continue to rise this year.
    • Oil prices have dipped recently amid worries of an economic slowdown.
    US oil production notched an all-time high of 13.4 million barrels per day last week, according to data from the Energy Information Administration.
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/us-oil-production-just-hit-a-record-high/ar-AA1opIux

    ...Just in case last years number record highs isn't good enough.

    This is just from a few days ago.
     
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    Where do those who think Biden has hurt the oil industry and caused them to lower production come from?

    Can't be from credible sources of information.
     

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