Does Man Exist?

I believe that one can make a better case for the existence of God then you can for the existence of Man. Here's why...

Man is already gone. We just don't know it because we are living in a time when we happen to be here, but keep in mind that time is a slippery slope. After all, all time exists at the same time. We are not only gone, but we have no been here yet, as well.

The time we will have been here is so tiny that you could say Man was really never here, right? If time is infinite and we were here for a very short period of it, you could just kind of round us right out of existence, no? Do the math...200,000 years [give or take] divided by infinity equals what? As close to Zero as you're ever going to get.

God, OTOH, is the perfect solution to all the questions that go far beyond the reach of our minuscule intellects, e.g., What's on the other side of the Universe? What was here before the Universe? Why are women so difficult? [just kidding, ladies :]

God was created so people could stop banging their heads against the cave walls. If you think about it, His existence makes considerably more sense than our own.

 

I don't think so. The existence of the universe is an interesting, possibly unsolvable puzzle but adding god to that equation just creates a new mystery. It's only an illusion to solving the problem because it creates an even more confounding problem. Why would there be such a being, how could such a being come into being, etc. It's illogical to make up crap when you don't understand something. Sometimes you have to accept that you don't understand it, and without adequate tools, that you can't for now and maybe forever.

 

That's been my point for many years, but [most] people actually believe they understand. If they only could taste the freedom of not having to know for just one moment, it would completely change their lives.

And...if you could understand one thing, you could understand all things.

 

I think the problem that a lot of agnostic/atheist types have with god is, perhaps, the personification.
If you think of the definition of God more as the universe itself , not a person but something much more incomprehensible than that, then the objections melt away. It is the Brahman of the Hindu faith, the Dao etc

 

~ That leaves women and the non-binary.

" Time takes time . " ​

 

No it doesn’t.

 

So if man doesn't exist who's typing?

 

Well, if we happen to be here, I'd say that makes us existing. Whether all time exists at once is at best disputed. We are not yet gone, because "are" is a word that refers to how things are at this time, and at this time, we exist.

No.

Our time being tiny is not the same as never having been here. Especially if it only seems tiny when you compare it to something unrelated.

Nope. You shouldn't do any rounding that changes the conclusions. Why would math invite you to divide anything by infinity?

What makes you think it is the perfect solution? I would have thought a perfect solution would be reliable, yet the God solution provides little more than unsupported claims.

 

It's still just inexplicable woo at that point. LiveUninhibited's response was correct. When we don't know something we should just admit that and not make stuff up to feel all mysterious and self important.

 

All time does not exist at the same time. This isn't Doctor Who.

 

And yet we are so filled with our lives that we think we are eternal and God is the blip. Nice post, btw.

 

There's some major rationalizations. Imagination is a wonderful thing isn't it?

 

If "God" is the universe and nothing but, then why bring in the word god? It adds nothing to "universe".

 

Saw lots of men today, but no gods. Sounds like this OP is going nowhere.

 

Men, as a part of creation. God doesn't live here. Creation is his handiwork. So you'd have to ask him about the transient nature of creation and why he lives elsewhere. As for me, it is enough to acknowledge my existence and dependence.

 

You guys need to expand your intellectual horizons. It's like almost everybody here has their A+B=C narrative and they spend all their time making the entire Universe fit into such.

Open your minds. Don't be held captive to the current nonsensical thinking. Look at what the majority of people out there are doing...crazy folks chasing their tails.

As we all at least have some inkling, things are not as they appear. Why not explore the possibilities? You never know what you may come up with!

 

Creativity is fun, but accuracy is better. Look at what 99.99% of religion is doing . . . crazy folks chasing their tails.

 

Thanks.

I have always believed that the key to remaining sane in this world is found in realizing the limits of our intellect. To deny a higher authority seems downright crazy in light of the idea that we can know so very little.

 

According to that "logic," you have to accept the existence of ANY proposed entity. You'd have to throw critical thinking completely out of the window. Yeah, that's downright crazy.

 

Religion has always dealt with the truly important things in a person's life. How much accuracy can one have when you are dealing with such a rudimentary tool as the human mind? We are lucky we can put one foot in front of the other, yet we are so enamored with our toys that do this, that, and the other thing.

 

Not nearly as well as reason and compassion have, and religion has, more often than not, created more such difficulties than it has "solved."

Better than the far more inaccurate and rudimentary option: religion

Yet you want to base everything on one of the most broken toys we've ever created.

 

99% of what's important happens BEFORE your critical thinking kicks-in. You see the truth first, and then your mind adapts [distorts] it to fit into your own reality. Doesn't work very well.

I am not saying that there is no use for discrimination, but it should be on the back burner.

 

And 99% of the mistakes we make are in failing to apply critical thinking afterward.

You are admitting that your own model doesn't work very well.

Yet it works better than religion does. So a rational, thinking, compassionate person would put religion on the back burner instead.

 

If that was the case, it would have been gone long ago.

Perhaps one day you will explore what religion points to...spirituality.

The toys are the fluff. What's MUCH more important are the great questions of life and death which is what we all wish to know.

 

More self-contradictory garbage. Reason and compassion are still around, yet you falsely accuse them of the same ****.

Perhaps one day you will understand the value of reason and compassion and that their value can never be eclipsed by superstitious guesswork.