Does Zionism= Racism?

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Is Zionism a form of racism?

  1. Yes

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  2. Only partially

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    17.4%
  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is Zionism a form of racism?

    The UN used to believe so, until it was forced by American pressure to repeal their resolution.

    Ever since Zionism got political power, it has been treating non-Jews like crap and second-class citizens.

    Stealing their land, violating their rights, etc.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    some interpretations of Zionism are of course racist.

    some are not, but right now the racist/bigoted version of Zionism rules the government.

    but if the Liberals and Arabs united, Israel would be on the path towards true democracy rather than Apartheid.
     
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    No is not an option?

    Why are you quoting and answering your own thread?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not in this poll, as only truth should be an option for answers.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    its hard to say if racism is 100% part of Zionism, but much racism is expressed when Zionism is advertised.

    "people without a land for a land without a people", is just one example.
     
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    another dishonest poll without the real answer. No Zionism is not racism.

    Anyone who says it is is dumb or evil.
     
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    was Manifest Destiny, racist?

    Zionism is a form of Manifest Destiny. It teaches that the Land of Israel is the birthright of the Jewish people, given to them by God..not Man. And that this land belongs to the Jews.
     
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    yes it does belong to the Jews, not the jewish ppl though. There is a difference. Jews are lineal descendents from Israelites, jewish ppl are religious converts mainly from europe who rejected their own tradition in favour of Israelite teaching. First you have to come through the Jews, that is, the Jews make the rules, not some rabbi from germany who follows judaism.
     
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    As a socialist Scotsman, I equate the evil Zionists with the evil English, both of whom have behaved in a racist manner.

    As a patriotic Scot, I put my moral weight behind the heroic Palestinian freedom fighters.

    God bless Palestine and Scotland.
     
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    there is no difference.
     
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    yes there is. can you not see?

    Jews are the lineal descendants and jewish ppl are converts to a religion. A Jew doesnt have to convert or even follow judaism, he/she is born a Jew that is the birth right, not some conversion or bloodtype.
     
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    no, there is not.

    Are you saying Swedes are different than Swedish people???

    lol!!!!! :roflol:
     
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    Zionism is racism since it excludes non-Jews from participation.
     
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    Maybe you just dont know yet or dont understand. A Jew is a spiritual state, not a bloodtype.

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    Actually it does allow non Jews to participate, thats why you invented Judaism so gentiles could convert to a man made religion that tries to superimpose Israelite Faith.
     
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    that's not correct.

    One can convert to Judaism, but the Jews are also/were also a separate ethnic/national group, and continue to be one today.

    This may not have been the situation if Justinian had not become a Christian, and Roman rulers followed by Byzantine and then Catholic rulers made it a crime to convert someone to Judaism or to become a Jew, but this is the way it is.

    Jew= member of the Jewish people.

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    Now, one could argue that until Judaism became a persecuted faith, and the Jews a persecuted people in The West, the Jews were on their way towards becoming just another international faith with no ethnic/national connections, but that all changed when the Jews became a persecuted minority in Europe and all lands controlled by The Cross.
     
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    Ronstar please vote on my Scotland poll. Thanks.
     
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    of course one can do that, that doesnt necessarily mean they are a Jew. Yes Jews are an ethnicity but only because you europeans made them one, if you like.
     
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    lol!!!!

    Gentiles have been marrying into and joining the Jewish people, since the time of Joseph.

    you have never read the Bible if you think intermarriage and conversion is not a big part of the Jews' history, right up until around the 4th century AD
     
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    Yes, many Edomites converted. This is why jewish ppl are believed to be Edomites. What reason do you give for an Edomite rule over modern day Israel? its what iam eager to learn.
     
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    many other converted & joined the Jewish people, in Biblical times.

    many married Jews and converted as well, in Biblical times.

    that's why the Jews are not 100% Levantine genetics. They also have the genes of North Africa, Greece, Italy, Turkey, and other eastern mediteranean lands.
     
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    the question then is, why do we allow edomites and gentile converts to decide who gets Aaliyah? what happened to Israelite authority?
     
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    the Jews have always been a people that have accepted converts, and converts by marriage.

    it was a widespread practise until the 4th century AD.

    the Bible is full of conversion and intermarriage.

    that's why the genetics of the Jews today is not purely Levantine, but eastern Mediteranean, southern European, and north African.
     
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    So basically you allow men, converts none the less to make the rules rather than the most high. This is symptomatic of pagan ways and why the learned know who is fake and who Israel. in other words, you allow men to decide who are Jews and who arent, thats a complete fail son.
     
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    Edomites????

    what in the world are you talking about?

    this is 2015, not 54 BC.
     
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    the edomites didnt die, they will live forever. dont you see, its a euphemism that the most high told me about. esau-jacob?? twins, one mind?
     

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