DOJ Election Rigging: Youngkin Blasts DOJ Effort To Keep Noncitizens on State Voter Rolls

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  1. Zorro

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    They failed in their attempt to rig 2016, succeeded in 2020, now they are going for two in a row.

    Youngkin Blasts DOJ Effort To Keep Noncitizens on State Voter Rolls

    Youngkin calls out the corrupt election rigging bastards, publicly.

    'With less than 30 days until the election, the Biden-Harris Department of Justice is filing an unprecedented lawsuit against me and the Commonwealth of Virginia, for appropriately enforcing a 2006 law to remove noncitizens from the voter rolls.'

    They want the illegals on the rolls so that they can illegally vote for Kackles and Chuckles.

    'Virginians - and Americans - will see this for exactly what it is: a desperate attempt to attack the legitimacy of the elections in the Commonwealth, the very crucible of American Democracy.'

    Damn right we do. They are trying to steal a second election in a row.

    Please discuss
     
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    DOJ Election Rigging: Youngkin Blasts DOJ Effort To Keep Noncitizens on State Voter Rolls.

    And democrats explain that there is no partisanship in the DOJ. Incidentally, the constitution puts elections squarely in the states. DOJ has not constitutional mandate even be involved in it.
     
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    More fake news. Hezuz, it's like a stock in trade!
     
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    Oh, the law suit is real.
    The fake news is the clai. That it's fake news.
     
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    What part are you saying is fake, that Youngkin wants illegals off the voting rolls or that the DOJ is fighting it? There have been plenty of stories regarding both, so just because you want your illegals to vote and Youngkin said no doesn't mean anything is fake.
     
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    It's all made up b/s Steveo, we both know this....Youngkin is simply boot lickin'.
     
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    There are two facts. Younkin wants illegal immigrants off the voter registration rolls. DOJ is suing him to stop it. Who is right is opinion. My opinion is that, if it reaches the supreme court. Younkin will win because he has the constitution on his side. DOJ is doing politics, not constitutional law. That's my opinion. It corrupts the judicial system in my opinion as well. It is up to the states to determine who is eligible to vote and how. I'm a bystander, by the way, not a lawyer so my opinion carries no weight. But I want voting to be limited to adult citizens, not to all adult residents. That seems reasonable to me.
     
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    The actual facts are, removing people from voter rolls stops 90 days to the election, they did not stop, this is illegal. Now the DOJ is attempting to hold them accountable.
     
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    And there you have it.
     
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    Democrats claim to not want illegal voters on the rolls but they fight tooth and nail against every effort to remove them.

    As always when it comes to Democrats, do not listen to their words but watch their actions.

    And actually that's good advice for everyone, but it applies particularly to politicians and extremely particularly to Democrat politicians.
     
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    The actual facts are, removing people from voter rolls stops 90 days to the election, they did not stop, this is illegal. Now the DOJ is attempting to hold them accountable.
     
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    Politics is a struggle between competing opinions, not facts. The constitution puts elections in the states. It does allow federal government to intervene but I don't think managing registration rolls was the intent. So I oppose the law suit. It smells of politics. You can smell it can't you?
     
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    AND. The actual facts are, removing people from voter rolls stops 90 days to the election, they did not stop, this is illegal. Now the DOJ is attempting to hold them accountable. That's all there is to it.
     
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    That is your opinion, not mine. Apparently you can't smell the politics. Federal government should defend any ban on allowing non citizens to vote. To do otherwise is politics, not the national good. Federal government fights against foreign countries affecting our elections. Why does it not defend actions that ban citizens of countries living in the U.S. from affecting our elections? Politics. That's all there is to it.
     
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    Its not opinion, its fact.
     
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    To me it is opinion. If there is a law as you say then the purpose was to stabilize registration rolls, not to allow non citizens to vote. There should not have been a law suit by DOJ. DOJ should be pleased that the rolls are being cleaned of non-citizen voters. It is the opinion of DOJ that non citizens should be allowed to vote, contrary to other laws and the constitution. Am I not getting through to you at all?
     
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    There are actually two "groups" suing the state over this; the DOJ, and a coalition of immigrant rights groups. Both are claiming that the purge, this close to the election, violates FEDERAL law that states no purges can occur within 90 days of an election. The state maintains that FEDERAL LAW does not govern here, that even last year over 6,000 names were purged from voters lists because citizen status was not established.

    That this is political for the immigrant rights group is beyond question; that the DOJ is playing a political game seems beyond doubt. That Younkin is playing the political dirty tricks card is obvious.

    We'll see, after the election, whether states rights usurp Federal law in this case.
     
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    Yes, you want to ignore the law if it gets in the way of what you want.
     
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    Virginia election officials are using data from the Department of Motor Vehicles to determine a voter’s citizenship and eligibility, according to the filing. The lawsuit alleges the DMV data can be inaccurate or outdated, but officials have not been taking additional steps to verify a person's purported noncitizen status before mailing them a notice of canceling their voter eligibility.

    The list purging does not take into account changes in voters status and was not limited to just citizenship; death is another issue. The citizenship the information on the license may be out of date and the person may indeed be eligible to vote., The state did not take any effort to check whether the list from motor vehicles was accurate or outdated. The 90 days before the election is a time for those who may be removed to provide evidence and appeal the removal.
    My question is a simple one. Is it the responsibility of the state to show that a registered voter is not a citizen or is it the responsibility of a registered voter to prove they are. If the second is the case then shouldn't it be the right of that voter to have time to show they are a citizen. The reason I underline registered is that they have already proved it once.
     
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    The Purge is real: Inside the GOP's 2024 playbook to disenfranchise voters
    “Defendants’ Purge Program is far from ... a well-designed, well-intended list maintenance effort,” the lawsuit reads. “It is an illegal, discriminatory, and error-ridden program that has directed the cancelation of voter registrations of naturalized U.S. citizens and jeopardizes the rights of countless others.”

    That new Virginia lawsuit comes just a couple of weeks after the Department of Justice sued Alabama and its Republican secretary of state, Wes Allen after more than 3,250 people were booted from the state’s voter rolls within the 90-day quiet period mandated by the National Voter Registration Act, claiming they weren’t American citizens.

    These last-minute efforts to kick people off state voter lists aren’t accidental. They’re part of former President Donald Trump’s strategy to recapture the White House. And it’s working, at least in some regions.
     

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