Don't tell us it's Guns

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  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    Which is exactly what you did.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    none of those countries have a culture where common folk were encouraged to be armed
    none of those countries have a second amendment
    none of those countries have the borders we have
    none of those countries have 400 million firearms
    none of those countries saw their crime rates improve after they banned guns
    none of those countries have any relevance to the USA in this issue
     
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    Except for the fact that its easier to kill with guns than bombs.
     
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    Preventing is the wrong word to use, more like make it a lot hard and less likely.

    In the opposite direction you can have two people, one who sold the gun, and one who is buying the gun. The one who is buying the gun is going through a divorce and has made statements to the effect, "if I can't have her, then nobody will." And this is known to the seller, who is desperate for cash because of his own financial struggles. So, if the person who sold the gun, and knew the person buying the gun has made those types of statements, then shouldn't he be charged? Some say yes and some say no. But this was similar to the case in which a young woman was charged and convicted of encouraging someone to commit suicide.
     
  5. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's pretty much what I said too. A high number (not all) of killers are psychos.
     
  6. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You mean like Australia?
     
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    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Except i made the point, you disagree with it, and failed to refute it.
     
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    Effective bombs aren't easy to make or acquire, particularly compared to using a gun.
     
  9. Alwayssa

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    they do from calling 911 to walking away to asking them to leave the premises to whatever. But if someone is harassing you, that won't generally meet the definition of "my life was in danger" most of the time, would it?
     
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    and so what? and that is not true. a bomb has killed hundreds of people in thousands of cases. cannot do that with a firearm in a blink of an eye. try again
     
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    Or many countries in Africa, Asia...sure why not the metropolitan parts of Australia...where you gonna go with this one?
     
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    I can make an effective bomb faster I can acquire a gun from someplace other than my own premises.
     
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    Oh really?

     
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    what do you know about criminals getting firearms?
     
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    Australia has had more mass shootings in the 26 years since the gun ban than they did before the gun ban. Their mass shootings increased 400%. Is that the same level of success you want for The United States? A 400% increase in mass shootings?
     
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    Really.
     
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    When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.
     
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    Obviously you ignored the research I posted for your education.
     
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    Once again the only reason its irrelevant is because its too late for us.
    This is what we get with conservative policy on the issue. We just have to learn from our mistakes.
     
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    so it was conservative policies that implemented the second amendment and the idea that people other than rich nobles or aristocrats could be armed?
     
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    true, tanks are better able to be used to kill people but I bet Fords and Pontiacs kill far more citizens in the USA than MI Abrams tanks
     
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    400% increase of 2 is like 8.
    We passed 8 incidents some time ago.
     
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