Drones Attacking Russian Forces Directed By US - Moscow Gives Warning

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  1. Carl Von Clausewitz

    Carl Von Clausewitz Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I was talking about recent protests in Moscow over foreign temporary workers undercutting local Russian wages.

     
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    Yeah, tell that to Iraq with it's massive army equipped with cheap Russian junk. How long did that war last, 100 hours? How did that superb Russian equipment fare? Oh here is a sample.

    The Iraqis lost almost 4000 tanks.

    In contrast very few Coalition tanks were lost.

    It is believed that only 18 Abrams tanks had to be taken out of service during the war, most of these because of friendly fire.
     
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    Anybody that bought into the several false flags in Syria is very much a buyer of the nonsense peddled by Israeli and US propagandists.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That was 2013, but they're not migrants, Chechnya and Dagestan are part of the Russian Federation. Here's a run down from what I know.

    In his speech in the video, Kadyrov said Jihadists from the Gulf had infiltrated Chechnya. Putin said there were CIA agents embedded with them, and that the intent was to break Chechnya off from the Russian Federation since the Russian pipe lines ran through it into the Black Sea. For Russia it was a matter of survival.

    Two vicious wars were fought, and the 2nd one Putin was in charge. When they told him they lost Chechnya, he said it will be over in 2 weeks and it was, but Grozny was completely destroyed.

    Kadyrov the head of Chechnya said his father the Mufti wanted to speak to Putin, and he went against everyone's advice and trusted him. Kadyrov has never forgotten this. Putin gave the Islamic territories certain rights and made them Republics, and he rebuilt Grozny.

    Many Russians though resented them, since they were swarmed with Muslims in Moscow from the Chechnyan and Dagestan Republics. That ended when the Chechnyans backed their gratitude and love for Russia with their lives.

    In this video, Kadyrov wanted to show the Chechnyan support for Russia, so he called all his men to be prepared to fight for Russia. Over 10 thousand showed up ready to march to war. If you can get on to 2:50 you can hear Kadyrov tell of the events in Chechnya. Today Chechnyans are the ones watching over the deconfliction zones since they are Sunnis and will be trusted by the Syrians. They are also border guards between the Golan Heights and Syria.


     
  5. Tim15856

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:
    Oh, you were serious. :icon_jawdrop:
     
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    None of which were destroyed by enemy fire. :flagus:
     
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    Haha, okay.

    *cuckoo*
     
  8. Jeannette

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    After Nato's false flag bombing of Belgrade, Vladimir Putin realized that the US only respects military power. Since they don't have the population to compete with Nato nor a money making machine like Washington, they decided to use their brains which they have plenty of, as well as their natural resources and their high tech.

    Washington knows it can't compete in quality or price, so they use what they have, lies, and blackmail. It doesn't matter though, people aren't afraid anymore of the big bad wolf so they're buying Russia's S-300 and S-400 missile defense systems -regardless of how many threats are thrown their way.

    Anyway never underestimate Russia. It's what Germany did and it cost them. They assumed Stalin had 5 thousand tanks the most, and it turned out to be 35 thousand. They were also superior to the German ones.

    Here's a list of tanks and their ratings. America's Abrams is #3, Germany's Leopard is #2, and Russia's Armata is #1. When Russia prepares for war, it really prepares for war.

     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually I find Fort Rus more informative, but sometimes it get carried away. I do go on to RT and Sputnik first though.
     
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    Sadly RT is no longer available on my cable TV. Nor any Russia based news system
    Why do you suppose that is? :rolleyes:

    Capitalism or Politcalism at work?
     
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    That is Russia's problem, they are still stuck in WWII. Massive amounts of ineffective equipment will not win a modern war. In WWII Russia threw away tens of millions of soldiers to beat Germany. The Germans were unable to resupply and using bolt action rifles. Massive assaults won't work in a modern war. Iraq had thousands of Russian tanks too. They made nice coffins.

    Your assertion that Washington can not compete in quality is laughable. Especially after whining that their base was wiped out by drones.
     
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    The question was in relation to a US network :)
     
  13. Jeannette

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    You have a real comprehension problem. You better face up to it before you end up in a la-la land of your own making..

    Every drone that were sent to attack the Hymenem base in Syria was shot down. Not a single one got through. So far they destroyed 40 drones. This is why Turkey and now India have ignored Washington's threats, and are buying Russia's S-400 Missile Defense Systems. Saudi Arabia is interested as well, and maybe Pakistan - but I'm not sure.
     
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    They were sheep-dipped spetznaz. They were active Russian military, but on one of those 'we officially deny involvement' sort of missions where they take off their patches n such so as to avoid a war.
     
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    Of those 35,000 tanks, only about 1,000 were T-34 and about 500 KV-1, the rest were mostly obsolete junk. Hitler depended on Stalin for several strategic materials and about 1/3 of his oil. Hitler didn't have enough in reserve once the supplies stopped after he invaded. That's why he was more interested in capturing oil fields and mines instead of Moscow. Fuel shortages in 1941 slowed progress along with losses from combat and break downs. After the initial panic once they met the T-34 and KV-1, the German's recovered and it was Stalin who was playing catch up in 1943.

    The Armata is untested, it remains to be seen how it will do in actual combat. It has always been that Russia builds things that can take a beating and has low maintenance. The West has had better quality while Russia has the numbers. The A-10 was one solution to mass Russian armor. Tactical nukes were also in the plan in the 50-60's. If we ever have a situation where we find out who's military is the best in actual combat, most of us won't be around to find out who wins.

    While I support the independence of eastern Europe and the Baltic states, after all my maternal grandparents were Poles who came from Vilnius/Wilno and emigrated to the US when the Bolshevik's took their farm (at least according to one relative), I think expanding NATO to be right on the border with Russia is boxing them in and I don't blame them for feeling trapped and vulnerable.
     
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    Oh, I didn't realize you had inside information, and here I thought they were 'Wagner'? Knowing though it's coming from you, then it must be credible.

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    Seems to me that Germany's recovery was short lived, and they died with their ambition on the Eastern front. But then again everyone dies on the Eastern front.

    Seems like Poland has dreams of restoring its Polish/Lithuanian Empire into the Russian hinterlands, otherwise why are they so paranoid about Russia wanting Poland when it defies logic?

    Anyway Russia needs to populate its hinterlands, and is offering free land to Russians and Slavs which include Poland, that want to retain their heritage and traditions.
     
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    I want to make a correction here, it was not 40 drones that were shot down outside of Hymenem, it was 50 according to Vladimir Putin.
     
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    Are you sure it wasn't 500 drones?
     
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    You laugh. But years down the road, it'll come out, and you'll remember being a D about it.
     
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    No doubt

    Poland and Russia have had lots of wars over the centuries and Poland suffered from the Soviet invasion. I see no way for them to be able to take any land from Russia unless Russia allows it.
    At least they have South Africans to help with that.
     
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    By boming them? Original support.
     
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    Please tell me about the results of the combat test you did to determine this?
     
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    This just keeps getting better. Next you will be claiming they sank 12 aircraft carriers. You have no truth and no credibility. Russia has butted heads with the US several times. West Berlin and Cuba are example of this. When push become shove, the Russians tuck their tails between their legs and flee.

    The best preparations the Russians could do to prepare for a war with the US would be agility exercises. That way it would be easier to bend over and kiss their asses goodbye.
     
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    Supply and demand.
     

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