Faced with anti-vaccination parents, teens are helping one another get Covid shots

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    You are not comprehending my posts. Parents that do NOT trust the vaccine hold the position that they ARE PROTECTING THEM by refusing to let them get vaccinated.

    The rest of it is irrelevant.
     
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    Look, some dude in France knows the allergy history of your children. He knows everything there is to know about Covid vaccines. You are just a parent. Now sit down, be quiet, and do what the nice gentleman tells you to do. :)

    /sarcasm
     
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    Will the dude in France get to take the bad side-effects if he's wrong? /hmm
     
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    Nope. But he’ll still tell you if your kid gets messed up it’s worth it for the good of society. This pandemic really defined the dividing line between collectivist authoritarians and the few remaining folks that aren’t.
     
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    Yeah, just as I suspected. I think I'll stick with making my own decisions. /let the negative comments commence.
     
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    I do not AGREE with your posts.

    Subtle difference and it's what makes Debate Forums like this function ... !

    PS: They are protecting NOTHING except a profound ignorance! In a situation in which we find ourselves today we refuse good-science at our peril! Get it?
     
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    You don't have to agree. I'm not the least bit worried about your position or disagreement on this issue.

    The FACT is parents that choose not to vaccinate themselves or their children not only have that right but there is nothing inherently wrong in their decision as they believe they are protecting them by not allowing it.

    Take it or leave it. Matters not to me.
     
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    A PARENTAL DUTY OF CHILD PROTECTION

    You are denying the rights of children and endangering their lives if you believe the above in the present Covid circumstance.

    Parents have a duty to protect their children from a life-threatening disease.

    And children are human-beings just like their parents. So, when a national calamity occurs - such as Covid - the children must be protected. It is their fundamental-right to exist and they deserve to be protected against the threat-of-death by all means necessary.

    To the point where parents who neglect this fundamental protection can, in a court of law, have their "parental rights" either diminished in any given circumstance or
    their parental rights abrogated entirely to protect the child.

    Covid is indeed in this latter case and
    a court of law WILL take the child away from the parents to protect it should they insist that said child not receive adequate inoculation from a life-threatening airborne disease.

    DEFINITIVE DATA REGARDING CHILD COVID INFECTION


    From here - The American Academy of Pediatrics: Children and COVID-19: State-Level Data Report

    Excerpt:
     
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    You going to take kids away from parents who feed them too much soda and cupcakes? LOL

    Guess what’s going to mess up kids worse—a lifetime of obesity or not being vaccinated before they are of age to make their own decision?

    You authoritarians have no common sense.
     
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    Sigh.

    You are not comprehending my posts. Parents that do NOT trust the vaccine hold the position that they ARE PROTECTING THEM by refusing to let them get vaccinated.

    The rest of it is irrelevant.
     
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    COVID VISITS AMERICA'S YOUNG!

    You are absolutely correct. I am not comprehending nonsense.

    There is the worst epidemic killing a great many people in America and we have a preventive medicine.

    And you feel that some thinking naively that they should not trust the ONLY ALTERNATIVE available to protect the young that has proven itself effective? Whilst this is the factual mortality rate in evidence (from here):
    But, still, their parents should NOT have the kids inoculated?

    It is rare in this forum that we see anybody wish death upon children who have contracted a mortal disease ... !
     
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    So you have never had one vaccine injection yer whole life?
     
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    Sigh.

    You are not comprehending my posts. Parents that do NOT trust the vaccine hold the position that they ARE PROTECTING THEM by refusing to let them get vaccinated.

    The rest of it is irrelevant.
     
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    Comprehend does not mean agreement.

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    Parents who have their children injected with these experimental treatments are mentally defective.
     
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    Most people usually don't start with a plan to make bad decisions. We do the best we can with what we know and believe at the time.
     
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    There is a common and growing notion within the 'anti-vaxx' community that the vaccinated can shed/spread whatever is contained within or whatever results from the vaccine. And to be fair, this notion is not without some precedence, given that some more conventional vaccines do just that. Taken in conjunction with their belief that the vaccine has gene-altering properties and/or reduces fertility (I'm not saying they do, I'm saying thats what some people believe), its likely that some anti-vaxx parents are kicking their vaccinated kids out to protect other members of the family from exposure to whatever they think the vaccine does. I don't think people are rejecting their children for getting the vaccine. I think they're scared that their now vaccinated children pose a threat.

    ...and I think it should be criminal to not require proof of parental consent for this sort of treatment.
     
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    I've been reading about those concerns from anti-vaxxers. As a parent, I would risk dying rather than throw my own child out the house.

    Warning: Abuse...

    I was thrown out at 17 years old with nowhere to go. The rest of the family turned their backs on me (to avoid ticking off my parents). I was scared. I went to our local Catholic church and the priest told me that I would go to hell for not honoring my parents (by saying they threw me out with nothing). I went to the police station and hid behind some dumpsters as it was so late. I didn't bother going inside because earlier that year my sister and I were beaten severely and ran to that station. They kicked us out when we told them our father was a Chicago cop. The officer literally said "Come back if one of you end up in a coma or dead." (literally).

    The next day, I called a friend of mine from school and she came and got me and let me sleep on her couch for a few weeks. I applied for housing at the dorms by forging my mother's signature. I was an honor roll student, never tried alcohol or drugs and obeyed my parents. I've since learned that it had nothing to do with "how good" I was. I was their scapegoat and nothing I did or didn't do would assuage their anger and hatred toward me.

    Five years ago, in 2017, they contacted me upon learning of my separation and said the would help me (my ex had kidnapped our children). I thought they had matured and believed them. About three weeks later, they physically attacked me and I ended up in the hospital for a week and had internal bleeding for about a month. They threw me out again when I was discharged. I didn't have my vehicle (left it when I flew to Chicago) and nowhere to go again. I walked to the local park near their house and slept on a park bench. I only had about $20 (my ex took everything), went to buy some water and protein snacks. I called every shelter I could find during the day. It took five days to get an approval. Everyone you see on the streets is NOT a drug addict, alcoholic and/or sex worker. My only crime was being borne to two psychopaths.

    It wouldn't matter to me what my child did or didn't do. I would never throw them on the streets with no options. NEVER.
     
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    Duplicate.
     
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    You are really raping the language to say Covid is a mortal disease, but that is what desperate posters must do.

    The virus has a survival rate of 99%. In plain English, that is not a mortal disease, that is the seasonal flu type disease.

    The shot you want those children to take is mortal in many cases.
     
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    Have you ever asked one intelligent question in yer whole life?

    Under the supervision of my physician father, I was administering small pox vaccines to my younger siblings when I was 11 years old.

    We had our children vaccinated with the standard fare vaccines in the early 80's.
     
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    I've mentioned it before but it bears repeating. I appreciate that you post your dissenting opinions in a mature and respectful manner. I can't figure out why some people think terrorizing other people is a beneficial tactic.
     
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    And that includes the millions of doctors in the world giving the vaccine. But you know better. ;)

    Ever heard of the Galileo Complex?
     
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    More one-liner blather from the Rabid-Right.

    Gets your rocks-off does it ... ?
     
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