Faced with anti-vaccination parents, teens are helping one another get Covid shots

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More pathetic nonsense from the Rabid Right.

    The Chinese and French were investigating why and how there was a previous outbreak of SARS in 2003/4 in a lab in Wuhan in early 2019. The initial "outlet" of the Covid disease was indeed that lab in Wuhan. Which the Chinese wanted to keep secret. So they closed it down. The French scientists returned to France because the lab had not produced an antidote.

    But the disease was already "out and running". Which is why the American PotUS is trying to get the world to understand where and how Covid started in order NOT TO REPEAT THE SAME MISTAKES.

    But the Chinese government is not listening ... !
     
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    In France, in a week, the kids in school will be getting their anti-viral shot. Ditto Europe, where European Union management in Brussels has negotiated the delivery (and cost) of the serum for all its countries (and a population 40% larger than the US).

    Hey, Uncle Sam, get your ass in gear .... !
     
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    MORE COVID VERSIONS TO COME

    Hid you from what? The lab-work was never a National Secret.

    The real fact is that You Don't Want to Trust the Experts. Which is tantamount to profound-ignorance!

    I am simply quoting the factual-information extant regarding the matter by those who are worth trusting because of their education and experience in the subject.

    Do you understand the meaning of the word "factual" in this present context? Which is this:
    The incidence of death amongst children is rare but it has occurred - which proves that they are not impervious to a Covid-infection and therefore they are indeed risking death!

    And therefore they deserve to receive an anti-Covid shot "just-in-case"!. In France, we start inoculating the school-children next week as will the rest of Europe!

    I.e., the European Union "Commission" (equivalent to an EU-Government) has negotiated the purchase-and-distribution of an anti-Covid cure for all ages concerned!
    Which is what Biden's Administration should be doing!

    Aka, "Getting one's act together"* ... !

    *And why is g-o-a-t crucial?
    Because evidence is growing that this is just the second-round and there's yet another Covid-version to come!!!!!!
     
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    We're finding the same thing here in the US. CDC Investigating Cases of Heart Inflammation After COVID-19 Vaccination | CLG News (legitgov.org)
     
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    Stupid is as stupid does. Just goes to show how propaganda works on children. No one under the age of 50 should get the shot unless they have underlying conditions.
     
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    VAERS has 4,400 deaths reported by doctors due to the experimental shot.
     
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    That takes 5 to 20 years. The public is fodder for an experimental treatment with unknown long term consequences.
     
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    Are you realy trying to claim those 4,400 deaths are a direct result of the vaccine? Do we really have to go down this root again of explaining the purpose of VAERS
     
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    You think doctors are falsifying reports which comes with a negative incentive. You think you know more about doctors patients than they do.
     
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    Some of us are capable of common sense. Some of us don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind is blowing.

    Of course you might be right--maybe all these youngsters decided to develop myocarditis on their own? Who knows?

    But the common factor is that they've all been injected with dangerous experimental drugs.
     
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    I guess we do need to go over this again.

    Nothing to do with false reports at all, not sure where you got that from? What is does have to do with is that VAERS is used to report any adverse reaction and does not need or imply a link to the reported vaccine. It's in the FAQ's, it's not difficult to understand, just the normal deliberate misinterpretation

    https://vaers.hhs.gov/faq.html

    From the FAQ
    What are the strengths and limitations of VAERS?

    One of the main limitations of VAERS data is that it cannot determine if the vaccine caused the reported adverse event. This limitation has caused confusion in the publicly available data from VAERS WONDER, specifically regarding the number of reported deaths. There have been instances where people have misinterpreted reports of deaths following vaccination as deaths caused by the vaccines; that is not accurate. VAERS accepts all reports of adverse health events following vaccinations without judging whether the vaccine caused the adverse health event. Some reports to VAERS represent true vaccine reactions and others are coincidental adverse health events and not related to vaccination. Overall, a causal relationship cannot be established using information from VAERS report alone.
     
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    Like smoking. You smoke, you can die. Same with the vaccine.
     
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    I didn't make that up, it was in the article you used to support whatever it was you were trying to say but you didn't mention it. You speak of common sense, show some.
     
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    I acknowledged the cause is unproved, no problem.

    Once again, common sense plays a role. As far as we know so far, what the boys have in common is they are all from Connecticut and they have all taken the shot.

    Maybe there is something in the water in Connecticut that causes myocarditis only in young males? Maybe that substance is also in the water in Israel? Who knows?

    OR, imagine this, MAYBE a toxic experimental drug never used before on humans somehow causes myocarditis in young males? Wow, the possibilities are endless, eh?
     
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    And maybe making that claim supports a position that is more dangerous than the protection it offers humanity?
     
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    Neither you nor Fauci can prove that humanity has been protected by these shots. Yes, we both know that.
     
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    I believe the resulting decrease in infections and death is proof that the vaccines work. I also don't believe that feeding fear is a proper way to either encourage or discourage getting vaccinated. It becomes very political when we do that. You presenting support for your position is a proper approach but your support also carried a disclaimer and reading that is also proper for a discussion.

    What I really distrust is pretty much anything Fauchi has to say.
     
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    This is silly bullshit. The danger from covid to kids is far from extreme and you have no f*^&ing idea what the long term effects of a fast tracked vaccine might be. It's this kind of hyperbole that makes you guys seem childish and a little dim.
     
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    Sigh, let me get out my crayons...
    Danger to children from covid is extremely low - data YOU provided shows this. No, the fatality rate is not zero but only a buffoon would argue that the rate would need to be zero to justify not administering an experimental drug.
     
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    Or existing antibodies and herd immunity. No proof the shots have stopped anything.
     
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    That can cause heart inflammation or blood clots and death.
     
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    Countered by a one liner from the Left. LOL
     
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    I can't sympathize with individuals who happily allow their children to be exposed to and spread perfectly preventable diseases. Call me rational, but the majority of the "dangers" you are talking about are easily disproven lies.

    If kids have to go around their parents for basic healthcare, I don't blame them for doing so. No different from a Christian Scientist kid seeking treatment for a potentially lethal allergic reaction from bee stings when their parents try denying them medical attention.
     

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