Federal judge heckled at Stanford says 'don't feel sorry for me,' says mob

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  1. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    This incident demonstrates clearly what a joke "higher education" in the US has become--a group of spoiled brats that are intellectual and moral midgets.
     
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    Another example of the leftist view that free speech can not be tolerated. People who believe in the CONCEPT of free speech and Individual thought would be able to respectfully allow it. Because they would respect the principle itself.

    Leftist ideology leads to totalitarianism, authoritarian regimes and dictatorships.
     
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    Up to what point? Would clearly the right has zero respect for such principles as exemplified by their fear of drag shows.
    Typical partisan crap.
     
  4. Zorro

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    They view us as less than human. Don't yield a damn inch to anyone who does not fully recognise your humanity.
     
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    You seem to confuse "hyman" with "intelligent" They are not the same.
     
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    We're not who is confused. We have perfect clarity.
     
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    Children should be protected from sex groomers.. guess leftists are outraged by that.

    What I'm hearing is that leftists are ok with drag strip shows in front children but can't tolerate a constitutionalist Judge speaking in front of adults who want to hear what he says.

    Leftist ideology not only is authoritarian...its capable of hurting the most vulnerable.
     
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    Clearly...
     
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    So you have nothing but talking points and only like free speech that you agree with.
     
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    A Remedy For Stanford Law School's Free Speech Thugs

    'Complaints to Bar Admission Authorities About Student Disruptors'

    'Those who value free speech at law schools should consider reporting law students who deliberately prevent guests from speaking - in clear violation of university rules - to bar admission authorities, suggests public interest law professor John Banzhaf, who has filed several successful bar complaints.'

    THEY DIDN'T WANT OTHERS TO HEAR WHAT HE SAID

    'law students at Stanford Law School deliberately prevented federal appeals court Judge Kyle Duncan from speaking in response to an invitation from a student group.'

    THE JUDGE'S 'WOKE SIN' WAS REFUSING TO LET A MALE USE A FEMALE PRONOUN IN A FILING

    'although Stanford may refuse to discipline the offending students for deliberately shouting down an invited guest speaker, authorities charged with insuring that applicants for the bar possess the requisite character and fitness to be entrusted with the enormous powers which those admitted to the bar wield may well take a dim view of such conduct.'

    'let bar authorities decide whether they are fit to become lawyers - just as those who violated other school rules such as those concerning plagiarism or other forms of cheating, sexual harassment, stealing, etc. might likewise be reported.'

    NOT A BAD IDEA
     
  11. Space_Time

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    This was a long time coming:
     
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  12. XXJefferson#51

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    Wrong. It is the 100% truth in full.
     
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    How do you say F U in Ivy League?

    Stanford Students Demand Journalist Remove Their Names from Stories … After Targeting Other Students By Name


    [​IMG]'There is an interesting development in the controversy at Stanford Law School where U.S. Circuit Court Judge Kyle Duncan was shouted down by law students and condemned by a law school dean for discussing his conservative judicial views. Student protesters published the names of students in the Federalist Society online as part of their cancel campaign. However, Aaron Sibarium, a journalist for the Washington Free Beacon has said that a board member of the Stanford National Lawyers Guild, sent an email demanding the Free Beacon remove her name and those of other students from their reporting because it is threatening and dangerous.'

    Gee, but you were not concerned about that when you published the Conservative Students names, suck it up, Buttercup, the worm has turned.

    'These students — and many faculty — voice a twisted view that silencing the free speech of others is a form of free speech.'

    '37,000 students at 159 top-ranked U.S. colleges and universities' were surveyed. 'Sixty-six percent of college students think shouting down a speaker to stop them from speaking is a legitimate form of free speech. Another 23 percent believe violence can be used to cancel a speech. That is roughly one out of four supporting violence.'

    These people cannot be hired to clerk for judges, manage business, serve in high office, they are unfit for leadership in a constitutional liberal democracy. They are power mad authoritarians, completely intolerant and unfit for exercising authority.
     
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    California has always been considered to be the Left Coast, but it's really getting to be ridiculous at Stanford. This case of Judge Duncan is bad enough, but now Matt Taibi has discovered more about Stanford's Virality Project regarding disinformation and censorship about the Scamdemic. Pretty bad...:thumbsdown:
     
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    Good for her:
     
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    WRONG! He was invited, the room was reserved and those that want to hear him had a right to, a right that was violated by these crazed nut jobs led by an even crazier dean, why now on leave.

    Stanford Law Dean of DEI on leave after failing to uphold free speech

    For the reasons the Conservatives in this discussion have stated.

    Dean: cancel culture.

    'There are fundamental issues to consider here beyond the issues of formal law and university policy. They have to do with choices for which all of us are responsible in building a community dedicated to learning and to preparation for the practice of law. With regard to the norms of this community, the cycle of degenerating discourse won’t stop if we insist that people we disagree with must first behave the way we want them to. Nor will it stop if we try to shame each other into submission (shaming, the research shows, has precisely the opposite effect in communities constituted by difference). The cycle stops when we recognize our responsibility to treat each other with the dignity with which we expect to be met. It stops when we choose to replace condemnation with curiosity, invective with inquiry. I remain dedicated to cultivating these norms in our community.'

    About time.
     
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    The fact that the document is so tediously long says everything. Know your audience, know your environment.
     
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    CONSEQUENCES: Stanford law students who shouted down judge may be reported to California Bar.

    As well they should be.

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    Sen. Ted Cruz has already warned the 'the Texas Board of Law Examiners against the Stanford law students' that are nothing more than woke little censorious freaks.

    'A law professor at George Washington University said he may file complaints intended to prevent Stanford Law School students who ambushed Judge Kyle Duncan from being admitted to the California Bar if campus administrators do not punish them for their disruptions.'

    Report the censorious woke shrieking bastards.

    'Professor John Banzhaf of George Washington University Law School sent a letter to Professor Jenny Martinez, dean of Stanford Law School, warning of his plans.'

    Giving the Dean fair warning so that she has an opportunity to do the right thing and send the message of just how deep this nation's commitment to Free Speech and Thought is.

    “I am writing to advise you that I plan to file formal complaints with bar admission authorities opposing the admission of students identified as violating the free speech rights of Judge Duncan and their own fellow students."

    Good.

    'The professor, in his letter, added his pending complaint is the result of Stanford appearing not to take “any steps to discipline or otherwise sanction the student violators.”'

    Doing what must be done.

    'Students at Stanford Law School shouted at and berated U.S. Court of Appeals Judge Kyle Duncan as he attempted to speak at the school at the behest of the Federalist Society earlier this month.'

    The Appellate Judge was invited, the room was reserved, the students that wanted to hear him, had a right to hear him. These woke crazed totalitarian bastards, led by this even crazier now on leave DEI Dean, decided that their opposition to his views was more important that his right to communicate them, to those that invited him and reserved the room, so, they SHUT IT DOWN.

    “As you have conceded, the students’ conduct ‘was inconsistent with our policies on free speech,’ and ‘not aligned with our institutional commitment to freedom of speech,’”

    But, that was followed up by no action against the vile offending students.

    'There are also several video recordings of the event showing many of the disruptors.”

    “Virtually everyone in the audience knows who the disruptive students are,”

    'Banzhaf, in his letter to Martinez, mentioned his track record of successful past complaints, including against the tobacco industry.'

    '“I’ve been called ‘a Driving Force Behind the Lawsuits That Have Cost Tobacco Companies Billions of Dollars,’ and ‘The Law Professor Who Masterminded Litigation Against the Tobacco Industry,’ among others,” Banzhaf wrote.'

    He sounds like no one to trifle with.
     
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    He was welcomed and wanted, but a different group of radical authoritarian asshats determined that they have right to prevent him from communicating to those that invited him and reserved the room for him to speak.

    Tirien Steinbach doesn't get to judge the "juice" or the "squeeze"

    'That Steinbach will “continue to ask this question” is precisely the problem at hand. In context, “Is the juice worth the squeeze?” means, “Is it worth you trying to hold your meeting when an angry mob might come in and ruin it?” “Is the juice worth the squeeze?” is, quite literally, a defense of the Heckler’s Veto.'

    It's quite proper that this totalitarian idiot has finally been put on leave.

    '“Is the juice worth the squeeze?” is an invitation to shut up. Steinbach is wrong to believe that her job is to decide whether each person who might be invited to speak at Stanford meets her definitions of “responsibility” or “benefit,” and to encourage the throngs accordingly. But, actually she’s not wrong to believe that, because that’s her job. That’s what DEI is. When Steinbach writes that “role was to observe and, if needed, de-escalate,” she means that her role was to help rile up the mob, and, when it got out of hand, to tell them she understood their behavior and wasn’t sure why the speaker wanted to keep going anyway. She’s a blocker, a tackler, a guard — a hired arbiter of taste working to stamp out any dissent from the fringe ideology she represents.'

    As an authoritarian, she does not belong on a liberal campus.
     
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    So it would be ok to invite Duke or Spencer to the campus? Freedom of speech right?

    Please provide evidence that anyone was 'put on leave".
     
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    Lessons learned from Stanford's pro-pedophile riot

    'Judge Duncan was greeted with posters along the walls of the prestigious university — saying he had committed crimes against women, gays, blacks and ‘trans people’ … .He was asked to give a speech at the famous law school earlier in March about the circuit’s Court of Appeals by the student chapter of the Federalist Society. However, when he arrived at the school, he was met by around 100 students yelling obscenities at him, including one protester who told him: ‘We hope your daughters get raped.’'

    Why did these crazed screamers hope his daughters got raped?

    This is the pedophile at the center of a mass protest at Stanford University against a Judge who refused to allow the felon to change his name on conviction records.

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    Norman Keith Varner, 42, wanted to change his name in the court records to Kathrine Nicole Jett, 42.

    'Varner has twice been convicted of possessing child pornography and failing to register as a sex offender. In 2012 Varner pleaded guilty to one count of attempted receipt of child pornography and was sentenced to 15 years in prison which will be followed by 15 years supervised release.'

    The 'US Court of Appeals rejected Varner’s appeal to change his conviction records to her new name. Fifth Circuit Judge Stuart Duncan and others ruling it as ‘meritless’ because the pedophile was known as Norman Varner at the time she committed the child sex abuse offenses.'

    And that's why these Stanford idiots shouted him down and made it impossible for him to speak to the folks who invited him and reserved the room for him to use.
     
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    Assigning tasks now? SMFH

    Diversity and Inclusion means shutting people up

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    'The largest college Democrat group in Virginia wants you to know that keeping Republicans off campus is required if you value diversity and inclusion. Sounds about right for a Democrat. Free speech is about pornography, drag shows for children, and censoring all inconvenient facts and ideas.'

    Bummer for you that the DEI Dean at Sandford, the authoritarian asshat who made an ass out herself, is on leave. Apparently she is the juice that wasn't worth the squeeze.
     
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    AND THEY NEED TO GROW UP: Stanford Law student protestors need lesson in First Amendment.

    'Recently, a federal judge asked to speak at Stanford University by the Federalist Society created a bit of a stink. Well, the judge didn’t so much as all the spoiled children who decided the judge shouldn’t have been invited in the first place. That includes at least one staff member.'

    'Now, some of the protest leaders, many of whom shared the names and pictures of Federalist Society members online and in posters, are unhappy because the Washington Free Beacon published their names.'

    '"The same students who plastered the names and faces of the Stanford Federalist Society all over the school are now demanding anonymity from the Free Beacon. They say we've violated their right to privacy by identifying them. You can't make it up," Aaron Sibarium, a journalist for the Washington Free Beacon, tweeted Friday. '

    Sauce, goose, gander

    'Lily Bou, one of the board members of that “guild,” argued their names should be removed because it serves no purpose but to invite abuse. Except, as noted, they were more than thrilled to publicize the names of members of the Stanford Federalist Society.'

    These folks Free Speech.
     
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    I agree it's all a bit over the top. Both sides seem to feel existential threatened by the other.
     
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    WELL, STANFORD: ‘Critical Consciousness’ certificate offered to Stanford STEM students: Stanford offers certification ‘grounded in critical theory and Black feminism’.

    '“While grounded in critical theory and Black Feminism, the goal of this certificate is to educate and prepare trainees with the tools necessary to navigate a dynamic future from a position of knowledge, empathy, and justice,” according to its website. Stanford’s Office of Inclusion, Community, and Integrative Learning offers the certificate.'

    And of course, how to prevent people you disagree with, from communicating. They call that 'praxis'.
     
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