It’s been a little bit since I came out as transgender, not long, but enough time has passed that I’ve felt mostly comfortable going out presenting the way that I like. I’d been under the impression, clearly mistakenly, that anti-trans rhetoric had become an unviable position based on the past couple election cycles. But I made the mistake of paying attention to the TV at the salon on Saturday and caught a few attack ads. I think three of them were pushing the rhetoric pretty hard. I shrugged it off as politicians not learning their lessons, but the election results sent a pretty clear message. Now, I’m not saying that anti-trans rhetoric and policy positions drove Trump to victory, or that it was even a major focus, but it’s certainly not the taboo I had thought. Makes me worry that the conservatives in my state are taking note. The prospect of being out in the open in a way that I’m comfortable with and makes me happy is a lot scarier now than it once was. Really sucks. My apologies for not bringing much of a discussion to this post, but wanted to get it down somewhere.
I don't think the average American has any problem with what adults decide to do with their life but it is when we see the ideology being pushed on children that gets people angry
Maybe. Ideally I’m not less safe on an interpersonal or social level, but at a minimum I feel that my right to exist in public spaces will soon threatened by potential future legislation. Not planning on fleeing my state just yet, but I definitely feel less safe than I did.
Only in gender-segregated public spaces. Fortunately those only represent a very tiny percentage of all public places. You'd probably have trouble if you were in a society like Saudi Arabia though.
They could always build an "other" bathroom. The wait time might be long though, in some situations. The trouble with all private bathrooms is they're less space efficient, so fewer toilets can fit in. Which in many cases results in longer wait times, as well as reduced level of average cleanliness.
Believe it or not, trans people get accosted outside of restrooms. Comparing America to various countries controlled by religious extremists isn’t the shining endorsement you seem to think it is.
You'll live. You people can't quite seem to grasp the fact that Donald Trump was already President for four years and the world didn't end. No one cares if you are trans, gay, or whatever. That's your personal choice. What we do care about, however, is the LGBTQ community trying to indoctrinate children at very young ages.
I agree. But I have to point out that no one is destroying their children's sexual futures more than the Americans outside of the pro-LGBTQ camp, even if LGBTQ is damaging children in their own way. Basically, all of America seems intent to not just warp, but break their kids. The only solace I take from this is that native born Americans are failing to breed as a result, and may disappear from the Earth, much to the benefit of the rest of the world.
In conjunction with what I said above, LGBTQ is often trying to fight the various ways the normies are destroying their children's psychological health, even if they are misguided on many fronts. Polarization will ensure every aspect only festers and gets worse. And polarization seems to be all Americans know how to do anymore from where I sit, getting my information almost totally from the internet. So if there is any productive dialogue going on, I am sure I missed it.
So do biological women. Violent people are violent no matter who the president is but at least Trump supports the police and putting criminals in jail. Someone might say something though if a 200lb biological man goes into the women's bathroom especially if their 98lb daughter is in there. Not all men who dress like women are actually Trans. And there is no reason a large biological male trans woman couldn't use the men's restroom.
Took a short break to clear my head after the election. I know this post doesn’t characterize every response, so if you don’t feel like this applies to you, it might not. It sucks that my concern is met with “don't groom kids.” We don’t. We advocate for understanding and the rights of trans children. We know what it’s like to not be able to be true to ourselves and to face the changes that come with an “incorrect” puberty. We know the long, difficult road of affirming surgeries, voice training, etc. We don’t want people to go through that unnecessarily. It sucks that my concern is met with “stay out of women’s restrooms.” I don’t personally use them, mostly because I don’t quite pass yet. Maybe in the future. But by the time I do pass, even a little, men’s rooms will be less safe for me. I’m left to either plan to not use the restroom in public spaces, or be a near perfect embodiment of femininity. Yesterday I was called a slur at Walmart. Wasn’t grooming anyone’s kids or using the bathroom. Just trying to be me. I get that this isn’t the place to seek solutions or hugs. Just felt like getting my post election feelings out there. I like this community and this felt like as good a place as any to post it.
Maybe. Not ready to flee just yet. I like my house, my friends, and my job. I’ll stay till the situation is untenable.
You're going to have to define "anti-trans rhetoric". Saying that men can't be women and women can't be men isn't "anti-trans". It's just reality. You are who you are. People that think they can be or are the opposite sex, have a disconnection with reality. People who are uncomfortable with their body need help to work on accepting themselves for who they are. We've known for a while, as evidenced by the gender dysphoria diagnosis, that these are mental health issues and we don't treat mental health issues by placating the disorder. The reality is that people (even all the Democrats and leftists) think it's weird and unnatural to try to be the opposite sex. Even if they say and act accepting, deep inside they know these people are living a lie. And this is evidenced by many leftists often slipping up and accidentally "misgendering" people. I myself try to be very respectful and accepting of plenty of weird crap other people do, including this "trans" stuff. I have a big heart for people that are suffering and it's no different with people that feel uncomfortable with their body. I want them to get help. However, I don't condone sex changes, hormone treatments, puberty blockers etc. This is an illogical treatment for the problem. I don't think people that suffer from gender dysphoria have anything to fear other than no longer being mistreated by the medical field, no longer being allowed in the wrong sport category and in the wrong spaces etc. I don't think it is something to fear that teachers will no longer be allowed to poison children with a transgender agenda and philosophy. I think people will generally continue to be as respectful of others as they always have been. I know I will. My wish is for people struggling with gender dysphoria to get real help with their problems.
Here's where you lose people. You have it backwards. Your brain is telling you you are going through the "incorrect" puberty, but your brain is wrong. Your body is doing what it know how to do based on your sex. I don't condone people using slurs. I can understand many people's dislike of the "trans" movement/ideology though, since it has led to horrific things like children being mistreated by the medical field, teachers indoctrinating young students in the ideology, men in women's spaces and so on. I think there would be a lot less slurs thrown around if people with gender dysphoria would just mind their own business and live their own lives without becoming activists and trying to impose their ideology on others.
I can throw some cyber hugs your way. I have trans friends, and they are petrified of the expanding marginalization that’s coming.
I wonder if people are familiar with John Money and his gender experiment on David Reimer aka Bruce Reimer aka Brenda Reimer? It is where this gender issue started, and is worth taking a look for those on any side of the issue.
You’ll have to forgive me for not being super debate brained on the topic today. I’ll debate my validity another time.
~ I believe that it is mostly the influence of today's dumbed-down illogical Western society that is causing gender conflicts and confusion . " ? " I can't be like you because somebody already tore mine off ... "
The bright side is that Trump wasn't elected due to bigotry against trans. Maybe a little bit vs immigrants, but even there it's more about people's misguided beliefs on the economy. The less bright side is that Trump's victory is likely to embolden bigots of all kinds, much like last time but probably more. It doesn't really need to be like that though. She doesn't need to automatically feel threatened any more than I need to automatically feel threatened if a 300 lb gay guy comes into the public restroom at the same time as me. It comes down to behavior. People should be minding their own business when it comes to other strangers in the bathroom. Anything more than that is kind of harassment regardless of size, gender, or sexual orientation.
