Florida Court Says Teen Not "Mature" Enough for Abortion

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    That doesn't answer my question. I am looking for actual cases where the government made a subjective decision about maturity (versus age) in a case.

    Of course maturity levels can differ - I'm not disputing that. I'm just concerned about the government making that kind of decision. Perhaps, the government might want to make maturity levels the condition for the right to vote. You okay with that?
     
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    That argument was used to attempt to deny a 13 year old an abortion.

    And, a full term pregnancy for children that young is a serious risk to long term health. In fact, it can lead to death.

    The objective of those who deny choice is absolutely uninterested in the wellbeing of women.

    This "maturity" argument is just one of the arguments used by the anti-choice crowd to deny women of all ages critical healthcare.
     
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    Wasn’t interested in answering your question.
     
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    [abortion is homicide, not “ health care”!
     
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    You can't support that AT ALL.

    Using your terminology, you want to ignore the FACT that it can be homicide to allow that fetus to remain inside the pregnant woman.

    You are just saying that you would always choose to kill the woman instead of killing the fetus.

    But, besides that being WAY beyond your rights (or the government's right) to make a choice, deciding to kill the woman does NOT mean that the fetus could survive. There are plenty of reasons for fetuses to fail to survive.

    And, failing to give full healthcare to the woman absolutely IS one of those ways to kill a fetus.

    Our health care system knows this stuff. You shouldn't be ignoring what modern medicine knows about pregnancy.
     
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    "Florida Court Says Teen Not "Mature" Enough for Abortion"

    yet mature enough to be forced to have their step daddy's baby?
     
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    i can completely support that!
    Look up any definition of homicide.
    Read any human development or biology textbook.

    trust science!

     
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    Modern medical science does NOT consider a fetus to be a person.

    And, that science absolutely DOES recommend abortion in various health related circumstances.

    I don't believe you are spending ANY time trusting science - or even investigating what science has determined so far.

    Also, homicide involves one person killing another. A fetus is not a person.
     

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