Food of the United States is a sheer and utter disgrace

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  1. Ekeleferal

    Ekeleferal Member Past Donor

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    ---I agree the dietary habits in the US leave many sickly bodies wanting. The premium on healthy alternatives is pretty steep. $6 for a gallon of organic milk. Not to mention the high demand for fruits and vegetables that are technically out of season, leaves many consumers with what are essentially filler calories because the food, grown in deficient soil, contains a minimum of nutritional value.

    ---What upsets me most is the predatory approach to healthy alternatives. I've got to pay an extra 20 cents for a can of low sodium, diced tomatoes. I've got to pay a premium for them to not throw a bunch of salt in the food, which actually saves them on cost. Win win for them.
     
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    I heard sheet tastes good when you cancerize it, and it's highly profitable too! Enjoy some today!
     
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    Marshal New Member Past Donor

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    We have all the answers but the US Government doesn't listen to us!

     
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    That's how I saw it. And if it's in a can, you really never know just how healthy it is. I mean, by the very nature of it, nothing fresh and natural comes in a can. Something has been added or altered to enable it to sit on a shelf without going bad. And they have us because there really is no alternative. I mean, there is in the way that you can buy fresh fruits and meats, but they are very expensive and if you aren't rich, well, you either bankrupt yourself trying to live healthy, or you eat the crap for a few dollars less and save up for your medical bills at old age.
     
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    You could buy the food in bulk and can it yourself. It is pretty expensive in the short term but once you have the jars bought it is pretty reasonable. Then you will know exactly what is in the cans you open up. It is even more predictable if you grow your own produce and can it. A lot of veggies can be dried (but we don't).

    Manknd has been preserving foods for milenia and since we grow most of our own we never have a problem with preseved food. It keeps us going when times are slack and it is delicious and healthy.

    Tomatoes can be canned at home and it is the acid in the tomato that preserves them...not the salt. And tomatoes and pickles (among others) can be canned without a pressure cooker. You can also can salsa, tomato sauce, peaches, apples and many more. With a little bit of salt ( I know... sodium) you can preserve pork and beef.
     
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    You mean those "Compleat" meals sitting on a shelf in plastic, ready to microwave and eat, AREN'T natural??? I don't understand how chemically preserved yummy meat can't be "natural". I don't know why we all just don't eat spoonfuls of Drano for dinner every night. Pretty much the same thing in the long run. Why not speed up the whole process and become more "efficient" in killing ourselves? Isn't efficiency the "corporate" thing to do?
     
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    GMO Salmon approved for unlabeled human consumption. It will cost undercut the market and drive natural producers to cost compete by forcing more GMO on the American people despite their will, and it will further the expanse and domination of corporate-driven food production, furthering the decline of the American common people.
     
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    That's a great gig, you gotta admit. Put ANYTHING in a package, stick it in a grocery store unlabeled, call it "food" and reap the profits, unassailed, and people will eat it. I'm thinkin' cat poop should be the next unlabeled food group. The profit should be huge. I hereby claim the rights to it right now. Who do I pay off?
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Go have an angus thick burger at Hardees and get back to me.
     
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    Oh yes. It would be an orgasm of culinary delight. The sauce would energize my taste buds into over joy and excitement. The High Fructose Corn Syrup in it would give me an energy surge worthy of a narcotics user.

    It would do nothing for my body. Nothing for my health. In fact it has NEGATIVE food value. I am better STARVING than eating your fake bread, fake cheese, fake sauce, hormone biotic cornstalk-fed cow, no matter how nice the cut, and drinking your death syrup water. NO THANKS! STARVING IS A BETTER NUTRITIONAL BENEFIT THAN EATING YOUR FOOD SOMETIMES.
     
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    Supermarkets offer cheap easy food, which is fine. I see no inherent problem with processed food. If you want to put more effort in or pay more then there are plenty of places that offer fresh fruit vege herbs etc.
     
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    So, you'd be better with a bit or broccoli in your life. Nothing wrong with a burger, and if you eat one everyday you'll just die a bit early, not so bad.
     
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    Combine that with your laboratory created food substitutes, and you'll not only die early, but you'll grow cool tumors! Your kids will appreciate the cancer you give them too one day, I promise you!
     
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    Thing is, I don't disagree with you in some ways. I like fresh fruit and vege, as a vegetarian I don't eat processed meat, or go to Macds. It's one of the reasons I love living in Taiwan, so much cheap fruit and fresh vege.

    But.....this type of argument tends to be mixed into a kind of counter-factual hippy-snob-ism. For example, processes food, if one were to eat them to reasonable quantities, clearly aren't so unhealthy. American's live a long time by global standards, so - clearly it's not exactly terrible for you.

    Furthermore, what processes food causes cancer exactly? There never seems to be much in the way of fat to those kind of claims (sweetener comes to mind).
     
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    Americans live longer because the big pharma fat cats know what's in the cancer causing crap they feed us, and so they know what other chemicals to "treat us" with. They get paid on both ends, and a long living patient to "treat" is also very profitable.

    Cancer? What causes it? Aspartame is one, you're correct. Let's see.....mercury in soda pop, mercury in vaccines, production waste (fluoride), and probably those "paratafamalacideanticortahisterideenzines" or maybe the "polypharmainsecticidemercuraratapoisoncappaunsaboriates" nitwits ingest willingly and for very high profits to the fat cats.
     
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    Americans live longer because the big pharma fat cats know what's in the cancer causing crap they feed us, and so they know what other chemicals to "treat us" with. They get paid on both ends, and a long living patient to "treat" is also very profitable.

    You're rather in danger paranoia...

    Cancer? What causes it? Aspartame is one, you're correct. Let's see.....mercury in soda pop, mercury in vaccines, production waste (fluoride), and probably those

    So, of your argument we can say: Aspartame probably doesn't cause cancer (just no evidence), certainly not enough mercury in soda pop or vaccines to do so. I mean where are your facts?!? Is your argument really based on disproved rumors ?
     
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    I must have missed it. WHEN did McD's start forcing people to eat their greasy slop? WHEN did supermarkets start forcing people to eat processed "food?"

    People have the same free CHOICE in picking foods to eat as they do in picking a president, STUPIDITY, the free choice of the masses.

    And if our horrible foods are the cause of Americans poor health, that shoots the argument for Universal Health Care in the foot. Is it our food or our health care that causes our longevity to be 4 years less than the Japanese. And the answer is,,,neither, it is their food, and Americans won't eat that. It's not what we do, it is what they do.
    How long do the Brits live? 13 months longer? Actually it just SEEMS that much longer as they have to live there!:roll:
     
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    "Not enough mercury" to do harm. I see. Seems to me...mercury ought NOT to be in there at all, wouldn't you think? Aspartame IS dangerous. I know the big pharma profiteers haven't "officially" admitted this yet but, it changes nothing. Vaccines contain mercury too. (just a little bit though). Little bit of this...little bit of that...all very healthy. Glad you're enjoying your pre-cancer.
     
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    Well, when we no longer have "a choice" because fat cat corporate profiteers refuse to label their poisons, or try and pass it off as exactly the same as natural (GMO'd salmon for example), your argument falls a bit flat.
     
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    They only sell what you buy. If you won't buy it, they don't sell it, so WHOSE fault is it? ALWAYS someone else to blame?
     
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    Well there ya go. Set all the crack dealers free and blame the kids they sell it to. Very "republican" of you. You sound like another guy on here that blames government for "allowing" fat corporate cats to steal.
     
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    Exactly. Very good analogy.

    The US right often claim that freedom makes people fat, and people are voting with their dollars when they eat pink slime. It is WOOL... Pulled over sheep's eyes! They manipulate millions of people with their rhetoric, and they should be forced to eat the food they unleash on others!!
     
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    This thread makes me want a Big Mac.
     
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    I never see the point in insulting people, why you'd wish cancer on me, I don't quite understand. Perhaps you're a horrible person, but I don't think so. So, perhaps we should just stick to arguments:

    You say aspartame is dangerous, I suggest that there is a lack of evidence to support that and a wealth of evidence to counter it. For example:

    http://archive.gao.gov/d28t5/133460.pdf

    You suggest that small amounts of something can't be ok for you , if large amounts of it are bad. I suggest salt - which is you need to stay alive in small doses - is terrible for you in large amounts. Mercury is toxic at certain doses, but not at very low ones.

    But, that said vaccines are phasing it out.
     
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    No, intelligent people would not "set all the crack dealers free," but they would not hold the customers blameless either. I've never bought anything from any kind of drug dealer, crack or otherwise. I think REALITY is the greatest high possible.

    And allowing fat corporate cats to steal, I was a corporate cat, not fat, and I never stole a penny. Work YOUR ass off and get there, and find out what you think you know, you don't. Are there SOME dishonest people in corporations? Sure there are, and there are some dishonest persons in teaching, in the sewer dept, in the Army, in restaurants, unemployed, and just possibly, in GOVERNMENT. But MOST people don't steal. Corporate leaders, or burger slingers.
     
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