From Mueller Time to Barr Time

Whatever silliness floats your boat. I haven't commented much on the whole Trump/Russian scandal. Mostly I have been waiting for enough to come out, to put it all in perspective. Nonetheless, the current Republican hoopla over Trump's pretended exoneration is really over the top. You should listen to what Lindsey Graham said about Trump before he was elected. Obviously someone has been paid off. His now claiming to go after those who started the collusion investigation is kind of silly. Is he going to go after himself? - or his dear departed friend, John McCain?

 

As I just mentioned to you in another thread, I used to be a spy. Spying on Americans is a violation of the 4th Amendment. Breaking this law is a serious felony. Yet we know that many people in the O Administration are involved. Go ahead and say nothingburger. Your about to be hit by a freight train and you won't see it coming.

 

Because it IS. You have BAD infor, there will be no blowback, get over it.

I don't believe you about being a spy either. At best a flunkie in an office handled classified stuff, no higher than "Secret" clearance if that perhaps just "confidential". Probably a complete fabrication having seen your postings thus far.

No American was spied on without cause. Trump and Nunes made that up. I'm sorry that's so hard for you to accept.

Trump did eveything a guilty man does, brought the heat on hismself after the initial reaons, and you are in denial.

There is no freight train except in your fantasies. Trump is the frieght train that will run over itslef when it derails.

 

Stealing 40 million from an inaugural fund is a big one too. So is financial fraud. As well as using private emails and destroying them, all of which Trump, and Javanka are guilty of, investigations ongoing, so tick tock....

That's only the tip of the iceberg you are running aground on....

Mueller was never what would kill him, it's all the dirt he came in with, Mueller was just the first domino.

 

4 years USAF Top Secret (SCI) clearance, Radio Communications Analyst and Security Specialist AFSC 202X0.

You can't spy on Americans without a warrant. FISC are for terrorists, drug trafficking cartels and foreigners. Carter Page was their "in" and he was an innocent man, set up as a ruse to spy on Americans. That's a felony!

 

That I might believe (about you) Not a "spy" though. A spy is a field agent, CIA FBI, what have you. a military intelligence officer or NCO does not a "spy" make except under some stretching of the definition.

Not to say you don't do some of the same work, I'll grant you, but it's not really what people think when you say "spy" (if one has a rudimentary at least understanding of how all these agrencies do what they do.)

But the rest, is VERY flimsy and you KNOW that. Blowback ain't happening, sorry

 

Great, this is another #FakeNews allegation. The con men in the media are doing a bang up job.

 

It's not at all fake, there is 40 million missing,we have a right to know where it is. Just because you'd like the Trumps to get away with theft, or misappropriation, is not a good reason not to have answers.

Ivanka and Jared have committed the same Crimes as Hilary and you don't care.

Security clearances have been given to security risks and you don't care. You are NOT a patriot, a bitter former one perhaps at best. Sorry, that's just how things are.

 

A vast majority of intelligence the NSA, CIA and FBI gets is military intelligence. Everyone is highly trained in collecting that information and educated in the laws against spying on Americans. That's why it's highly disturbing that this was set up as a counterintelligence investigation to begin with. That should have never happened and I guarantee that it didn't happen without the knowledge of President Obama.

 

Barr is evasive as Gayle Sayers in his responses to congress and his unflagging support for Dirty Donald is apparent.He seems to think he is supposed to answer to the president who appointed him, instead of the citizens of the country who pay his salary whom he is SUPPOSED to represent.

 

If you are OK with all the Trump overrides of security clearances how can you claim patritism? That's blind partisanship, NOT patritism. You SHOULD want answers, all you seem to want is a brrom and a rug. IF there was actual spying, I'm down for it being punished, I just disagree, that there wasn't cause.

The fact you are willing to let all the questions about Trump slide, undermines any false claim of patriotsim, it's simply bitter partisanship.

 

Oh, if this keeps up the way it's going, eventually it will end his career. He feels it's a just cause to sacrifice himself to save Dirty Don, but it will cost him his career, it already cost his honor and integrity (again) because he lost all that pardoning the Iran-Contra players.

 

So all the surveillance cameras are illegal.

 

I think this applies....

 

The elder Bush did the pardoning. But then it was his efforts that started the whole affair in the first place. The government investigation was begun by Reagan, as it was a presidential commission. Barr played his part in burying the report.

 

They have independent committees for inaugurations. Whoever is on those committees is responsible. I highly doubt the President or his family had anything to do with this.

Hillary didn't turn over work related emails upon departure from the State Department as is required by law. Have Jared and Ivanka departed yet? I'm told, the emails in question are already a part of the appropriate federal record.

Hillary deleted 33,000 emails under subpoena. Did Jared and Ivanka delete them? No, as I said, they already turned them over.

Hillary sent classified information over an unsecured server. Did Jared and Ivanka do that?

Hillary had her own private server in a bathroom closet in Arizona and another in her basement. Jared and Ivanka?

Hillary destroyed tablets, phones and hard drives. Jared and Ivanka?

You guys are terrible liars.

I suspect that the security clearances were being withheld by career Democrats in the government with an axe to grind, probably on the convoluted grounds that they are suspected spies for Russian.

 

If you want to blur the difference between surveillance and ordinary security, I'm pretty sure the NSA has better things to do than sit around watching Americans shopping at the mall or making a bank deposit.

 

Subpoena Isn’t the Only Way to Get the Mueller Report

By law, the House and Senate Intelligence Committees should already have certain investigative materials relating to Russian election meddling.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/...l?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

"Federal law requires that the attorney general provide to the director of national intelligence any foreign intelligence information collected during a criminal investigation. Then the director must by law provide it to the intelligence committees of Congress — either by sending a notification or acting in response to a request from the committees. The director has an obligation to inform policymakers, including Congress, of intelligence assessments so that they can take steps to protect the American people.

The relevant federal statutes follow a two-stage process: First, the language of Section 3040 of Title 50 of the United States Code — part of the Patriot Act — mandates that the attorney general “shall expeditiously disclose to the director of national intelligence foreign intelligence acquired in a criminal investigation (which may include limitations necessary to protect continuing investigations)."

 

As I have been saying all along, it is Barr's choice not to seek the grand jury material sought by both Jaworski and Starr. Instead, he is hiding behind the traditional treatment of such material for which there are clear exceptions in a matter such as this.

Barr Does Not Plan To Seek Release Of Grand Jury Materials

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/barr-mueller-team-probably-wanted-more-report-released

 

Barr is prohibited per revision of DOJ regs ... POST Jaworski / Starr. TalkingPointsMemo ... doesn't get any easier to explain.

 

You want Trump to break the law so you can impeach him.

 

Not up to him. Up to a judge and the Congress weenies can seek that if they want.

 

Really? Well you better let him know because he obviously thinks he can.

Attorney General Bill Barr has no plan to try to seek the public release of secret grand jury materials included in special counsel Robert Mueller’s report.

“My intention is not to ask for it at this stage,” Barr testified Tuesday before the House Appropriations subcommittee.


Democrats on the committee asked if Barr intended to seek a court order to make those materials public, as House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-NY) has pressed him to do. He offered only to listen to Nadler’s case on why that would be necessary.

 

Barr has to file a petition ... not "ask". He has to meet a legal threshold. If congress "chooses" they can petition the court themselves. Barr has his own set of guidelines to follow.

 

Barr has to seek the permission of the judge presiding over the grand jury..........as I have said from the beginning..........just as Jaworski and Starr did. The rules for such a request have not changed. Barr chooses not to do so.

If Barr has to jump thru a bunch of legal hoops to get the grand jury material what makes you think Congress is able to get it?