get your vaccination and your booster shot

But we're talking about a drug that isn't necessary only reason anybody would require it is for political reasons.

 

I never said that VAERS data can't be used for research and analysis because they obviously analyze the data further when safety signals appear.

What I have said is:

You seemed confused, maybe I am confusing you. What I am trying to suggest to you is that you can't use the VAERS database to prove causation. I am also stating you can't use it to show correlation without delving much further into other data sets that contain more specific and reliable information. On its own, the best you can do is identify potential problems.

I know you are likely trying to divert from the only point I am really trying to make which is you can't use the data in VAERS to prove cause and effect relationships. Any link to articles that you post that state a cause and effect relationship between the covid vaccine and things like cancer, infertility, kidney failure (or whatever it is they are trying to lie about) using only data from VAERS -- are bullshit.

VAERS has been used to establish statistical associations but to confirm those associations, the CDC has looked at actually health reports, insurance reports, statistics comparing vaccinated populations to unvaccinated populations and so forth. There is a lot of data that needs to be looked and delved into even to make a correlation. They don't just look at the VAERS data in isolation like the writer's of misinformative articles do.

You bolded the following and asked "So if the bold text can't be used for research and analysis, what can it be used for, according to you?"

• Detect new, unusual, or rare vaccine adverse events;
• Monitor increases in known adverse events;
• Identify potential patient risk factors for particular types of adverse events;

I have already explained that to you. I have also explained what it can't be used for -- to show causation between a vaccine and an adverse event. The VAERS database makes that very clear.

Reports submitted to VAERS are reviewed by experts, like doctors, pharmacists and statisticians, and serious events are given additional scrutiny. The limitation of VAERS is that it can't be used on its own to figure out if an event following a vaccination is common or rare. You also have to look how common any given adverse event is in the vaccinated population compared to its frequency in the unvaccinated population. The data in VAERS is not meant to be used for scientific research to establish causation.

This is what happens when a cherry picking anti-covid-vaccine article writer encounters the VAERS database. Oh my god, covid vaccines causes 'a certain disease'. It says right here in the VAERS database that there have been over 2000 reports of people reporting they got 'a certain disease' from the vaccine. That proves it. Then they write a stupid article based on the VAERS database that people who lack critical thinking skills use as proof that vaccines cause 'a certain disease'.

Here's what a proper researcher does. He/she sees over 2000 reports of people reporting that they were diagnosed with 'a certain disease' after being vaccinated. He/she doesn't conclude from the VAERS database alone that vaccines cause 'a certain disease'. What would have to be investigated to even come to some kind of correlation would be:
-- how many cases of the reported disease compares to the actual number of people vaccinated -- is there a statistical significance? 2000 out of 613 million is hardly statistically significant
-- how many vaccinated people did not experience the disease?
-- how often does this certain disease occur in the population in general?
-- is it occurring in certain age groups? in certain areas? with other pre-existing conditions? is it occurring with a certain vaccine type? And so on and so on.
Real science investigates properly. From the data in VAERS related to 'a certain disease', they would conclude the number means little or nothing. If they felt it still might be a signal, they would continue to monitor. Only idiots take a number from the VAERS database and make causative statements.

VAERS is a tool and unfortunately it is being misused.

Now just accept the fact that when you link to articles that make cause and effect statements based on information taken solely from the VAERS database, anybody who actually understands what the database represents will immediately understand that you are posting bullshit links that contain bullshit information written by liars who don't have one inkling of how science actually works.

Now stop misquoting me and putting words in my mouth, if you would like to prove that you can use data in the VAERS database to prove some cause and effect relationship please do. Otherwise, I am not going to respond any further.

 

Glutton's for self-harm and punishment perhaps?

 

Your response to an article that did research and correlation of data used from VAERS, states otherwise.

You're confusing yourself, not me. Backpedalling a lot.

 

No I am not. Obviously you have nothing of substance to add, so you feel the need to post disingenuous comments about me. Anything that you link to that uses VAERS data as proof of causation is nothing but bullshit and should be filed under “misinformation”.

 

But of course it is. Don't forget to add the label, "things I'd rather deny".

I don't see you having a rant at all those peer-reviewed medical papers I posted. I suppose they're bullshit too, hey?

 

Another death reported in my daughter's husbands family, a sister in law, I believe she's probably under 65, was found dead of cardiac arrest, she was vaxxed to the 9's, and now she's in peace. She was not a picture of good health regardless but the jabs...pushed her over.

 

l am sorry for your family’s loss but a tad misguided to blame vaccinations because you can’t know that. Perhaps more to do with not being a picture of good health.

 

~ Or scared, perhaps stupid ... ?

 

I went ahead and got the flu shot this year but have resisted the 4th covid shot until I hear from people in the real world about their experiences with it. Most folks I know are holding steadfast with one booster and done.

 

You should pay attention to your own experiences, never mind the others.

 

Lol..the midterm variant is here.

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/rhinovirus-common-cold-cases-spiking-210821620.html

 

Wait, there’s more. Media will do anything to save Brandon.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/nightmare-covid-variant-beats-immunity-025733218.html

 

New Zealand Funeral Director Speaks Out

https://odysee.com/@AussieFighter:8/New-Zealand-Funeral-Director-Speaks-Out:7

"Brenton Faithful is my name, almost 41 years as a funeral director."


"I've watched adverse effects through patients... It's very obviously they've died within two weeks of receiving the vaccination."


"This isn't a one off case this is the majority of cases that have come through our facility."


Q: "Have you seen many where the death certificate is just unequivocal cause of death COVID-19?"


A: "No."


Full Interview: NZDSOS - Odysee (https://odysee.com/@NZDSOS:2/Brendon-Faithful:3

) - 27th Sep 2022

 

I would just point out that everyone I know who has contracted COVID has been vaccinated, and everyone I know got it from someone who was vaccinated.

Why on earth are we still talking about there being a value to being vaccinated?

 

Should we start looking into the potential linkage to BU and their research yet?

 

Some people need constant reminding, otherwise, the info conveyed gets lost.

 

... I didn't.

I've resisted all of them. I don't trust the mRNA technology, and as a young adult male, I don't wish to risk myocarditis and other side effects when I am perfectly healthy and am not susceptible to pneumonia nor anything like that.

Many I know haven't gotten any of them... Some have gotten the initial jab(s). I suspect that some have gotten at least one booster.

 

... with the election fraud variant coming right around the corner...

 

WELL said...

And why on earth are we largely still NOT talking about there being a detriment to being jabby jabbed?

 

I wonder how many congressional seats the antivaxxers will give to the democrats.

You know, on account of the COVID death toll being so much higher among conservatives.

Hey, we tried to stop them from committing suicide, but they insisted.

 

None, and I am not aware of any antivaxxers in Congress atm.

Nobody has died from COVID... they have all died from other causes (heart attack, stroke, cancer, pneumonia, etc) Please learn how death certificates work and learn about the current scam surrounding death certificates to list anyone and everyone as a "COVID death" via forcing COVID into being an "underlying cause of death", all for the gain of government (aka taxpayer) money.

Now you're trying to redefine the word suicide??

 

*LOL*

Yes. "nobody" died from Covid.

 

....just had my 4th one today

 

Got my second booster on Saturday.

I'm still not dead!