God created sin - Change my mind

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  1. Uriah

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    That isn't your brain. That's an image from a machine. You believe it only because a doctor told you what it was. That could be anyone's brain for all you know. See how trusting of man you are. The Scriptures say those who trust man instead of God are fools.
     
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    Mitty Well-Known Member

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    I trust my granddaughter who is a medical imaging technologist, and her twin sister is an optometrist.
    But have you ever seen a god and know where he lives?
     
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    You really ought to do a bit of study. Have you read Matt 26:1-5, Mark 14:1-2, Luke 22:1-2 and John 11:45-53, which is about the Jewish leaders fear of the retaliation by the Romans against a Jewish uprising led by the "King of the Jews" and his happy band of twelve after he rode into town on a donkey, and why it was better to get rid of one bloke than hundreds of Jewish people?
     
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    You still haven't seen your brain.
     
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    Mitty Well-Known Member

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    But have you ever seen a god, and if so, where does it live?
     
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    God is Spirit, like the wind. You can't see the wind, but you can see the effects. Leaves move. Your hat blows off. Ripples on the water. You see God's creation all around you, but you don't see God. You can speak. You can see. You can hear. Your brain is your command center, but you can't see your brain. That's the point I'm making.
     
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    IOW you have no evidence that gods exist, even though the bible says that biblical characters such as Abraham actually had face to face conversations with a god, and even shared a non-kosher meal together (Genesis 18:1-33).
    That's the point I'm making.
     
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    And Abraham's grandson was even squirrel-gripped by a god when they had a wrestling match together (Genesis 32:24-29).
     
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    Your references have nothing to do with the Romans. They never saw Jesus as a threat to their rule. He accepted their right to rule - render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto God what is Gods. They made no effort to stop his entry into Jerusalem on a donkey. That meant nothing to them. That was Jewish teaching which they rejected. And we don't know if it actually happened anyway.
    As for killing Jesus they would have had to deal with his disciples. Some of whom were armed.
    Your picture of Palestine is taken from the Bible. It is false. Palestine was not a peaceful, pleasant country. The Zealots and their Sicarri were troublesome and often killed their opponents. Thieves and robbers abounded in desert areas. If you travelled in these areas you travelled in groups. Many people lived on the breadline.
    The Gospel writers mention the detaining of Jesus in the garden. The High Priests sent the Temple Guard to arrest Jesus. Only John mentions there being Roman soldiers sent by the High Priests with the Temple Guard. That's nonsense. Roman soldiers were never under orders from anyone except Roman authorities of the time. The Temple Guard was allowed by the Romans to deal with religious matters which this was.
     
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    All I needed to know was that you had indeed had quoted someone else, hence clearing up that you referring to someone I blocked. But if there was.no actual quote and.you were referring to.another, make.sure in the future you note that you are shifting the subjeperaon away from the one you last quoted. Otherwise it's confusing.
     
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    How do you know? Unlikely yes, but my daughter has at least had the chance to have seen hers, if she takes the opportunity to see any pictures taken during her brain surgery. So it's possible Mitty has seen his.
     
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    A bit different even from a photograph of your brain.
     
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    Please. You trust people all the time to tell you things you have never witnessed directly. We all do.
     
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    The evidence is all around you, but there is no evidence that an sworn atheist would accept. Matters of faith are beyond their comprehension. If god appeared to you, like the messengers did to Abraham, you'd accuse them or lying.
     
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    Mohammed god is the god of Abraham. From the original son of Abraham, Ishamel.

    Unstable people? I was talking about those that believe god talks/communicates to them. And tells them to do something.
     
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    If an all knowing all powerful Creator does exist, could he appear as a man?
     
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    Yes, Jews and Arabs are cousins. However, Islam is not from God. Islam is from the devil.
     
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    This is what Bible says about Ishmael: "He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

    As we know, this was a very accurate prophecy.
     
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    Do you have a photograph of a god?
     
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    False dichotomy. I'm saying that a direct image is not the same as a generated image. Granted both can be falsified. But in going along that line, I have never seen the world as a globe. I've never seen Mars directly. For that matter I've never seen any kind of image of all these supposed worlds that have been found by the latest telescopes, nor the microscopic items and lifeforms that require a electron microscope to view. A inability to see something does not automatically render it not real.
     
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    Wrong. John 11:45-50 describes how an uprising of the Jewish people who followed the "King of the Jews" on a donkey would result in a retaliation by the Roman authorities and many Jewish people being massacred by the Romans and their nation being destroyed including their temple. Which is why they first wanted to kill him themselves, and then decided to let the Romans do it to avoid a potential uprising and the resultant Roman reprisal and many more crucifixions including the 12 disciples. "If you let him go on this way, everyone will believe in him, and the Roman authorities will take action and destroy our Temple and our Nation!" (John 11:488))
     
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    Have you ever seen a god?
     
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    That's what the story in Genesis 18 says, or don't you believe what the bible actually says?
     
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    So why do Moslems believe in Jesus and Jews don't?
     
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    IOW you have no evidence that gods exist. Or are you saying that gods exist in your imagination
     
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