God created sin - Change my mind

I never claimed they did. That doesn't mean I can't call out a bad argument or note when you use a fallacy.

 

Many Jews do believe in Jesus. There is a difference between believing in someone and believing in what they are.

 

And even though the Jewish leaders avoided a destruction of their nation when the "King of the Jews" rode his donkey, the Romans still put down a later Jewish uprising, leaving them to wail at their wall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70_CE)

 

I'm asking you. Can't you answer?

 

Then they've converted to Christianity, and don't follow Judaism which unlike Islam doesn't recognize Jesus as one of their prophets, let alone a "King of the Jews".
And many atheists also believe that Jesus existed.

 

Many Jews believe Jesus is the Messiah. Moslems believe Jesus is a prophet, not God in the flesh. The first Christians were Jews, and there are a great number of Messianic Jews. I even know a Jewish Rabbi who is a Christian.

 

That's your choice if you don't believe what the bible says about Abraham having a face to face discussion with a god.

 

Wikipedia is a very weak source to use.

 

Do you believe it?

 

No. Islam is from the same god as judaism and christianity.

All 3 lay claim to god of abraham. Via his sons, Issac and Ishmael.
This is common knowledge.

 

Still doesn't change the fact that the god Ishmael and ancestors worship isn't the dad(abraham) god.

The men who wrote about Ishamel were mad at him.

Issac's ancestors were mad at Jesus also. They crucified him.
But jesus' followers still follow the god of abraham.

 

Wrong. Abraham is the father of Arabs, not Islam.

 

Cool.
But do the Jews believe that Jesus is "God in the flesh", and if so what colour skin does the god have?

If Messianic Jews believe that Jesus is "God in the flesh", then that's just another Christian sect.

 

According to Islamic tradition, his father died before Muhammad was born, and his mother died when he was a young child. He is usually said to have had 14 wives or concubines during his lifetime. Although polygamy was then prevalent in Arabic society,
https://www.britannica.com/question/What-family-did-Muhammad-have

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Mohammad is Arab.
Abraham was never a Jew. They didn't exist then.

 

Like Christianity, Islam evolved from Judaism with the same myths and prophets and god etc.

 

Jesus is a Jew so he has Jewish skin.

 

Abraham was the first Jew.

 

Not according to Scripture.

 

Where does Scripture say that the Islamic god is not the same as the Jewish god?

 

But Jesus never claimed to be a god or to be without sin - Mark 10:18. He only claimed to be a prophet even though his parents and family didn't believe him (Matt 13:57), and later claimed to have an inherited right to be the king of the Jews as described in the genealogies for his adoptive father (Matt 1) and his supposed biological father (Luke 3).

 

As I said, believe in Jesus, i.e. that he actually existed, is not the same as believing Jesus was the Messiah. Many Jews believe in Jesus while not believing he is the Messiah. You can follow Judaism and still believe in Jesus, just not as the Christ. This is before we look at the fact that Jew can also be a "race" label, and there are those of Jewish decent and Christian of religion.

 

That's just your personal opinion.
And are you claiming that the Romans didn't destroy Jerusalem and the Jewish temple. If so, then who did?

 

And many atheists also believe that he existed in the same way that they also believe that the Buddha existed too.

 

No, it's just a fantasy story, given I've never seen a god or know of anyone who has.
Have you ever seen a god, and if so, do you have any photos or videos?

 

It doesn't. Where does Scripture say it does?