God for the British, Allah for the Arabs?

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  1. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    i only read quran
    this is the main book
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    simply quickly reading through a religious book is not enough to gain a real understanding.
    These things are more complicated than that.
     
  3. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    I don't think and I'm not going to
    mental health is more important
    my brain couldn't handle studying to be a lawyer with good grades
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Unfortunately it's not possible for a human to fully comprehend all the goings on in the world.

    It is possible to fully understand any one specific thing, if you put all your focus on it.

    But for practical reasons, few people can do that for more than a few things.

    It's a matter of complexity and limited human mental capability.
     
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    The Scotsman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    errmmm...is that by any chance code for Paddy's Bar....
     
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    When Jesus was born those around him did not speak English and they called him ישוע which is the Hebrew way of writing our savior's given name Yeshua aka Joshua. It was a while later then the Gospels were translated into Greek that he ended up w/ the new Greek version "Jesus" that we're all used to.
    Let's get this straight. Maybe you could clarify your thoughts here as I imagine that you can't mean that Arabic speaking Christians don't believe in God because somehow speaking Arabic is in itself sinful.
     
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    That makes sense & I see how that could be confusing. However I see it as some kind of a nowhere word game because if an Atheist does not pray, we can't say he's praying to a different or wrong God and we can still say that all who pray to a God pray to the same God. I understand that Buddhists pray and yet they never talk about God. That's just one of many items on my long list of things I don't understand and I'm happy living in a universe w/ thing I don't understand yet.
     
  8. David Landbrecht

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    If everything is the same thing, there is no "thing".
     
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    some Buddhist are atheists, some are theists

    I agree, wording that way would be more accurate than saying we all pray to the same God, as atheists do not pray to any God(s)
     
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    Yehoshua/Joshua/Jesus means Yahweh saves/is salvation. Allah saves would mean Alla saves.
     
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    You clearly missed my point. Don’t know why since it was quite simple. A father can’t have a son and not have a son at the same time.
     
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    There is god, and there is nothingness. God is love. Anything that is not based in love is simply illusion, contrast that gives existence meaning. Light/darkness.
     
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    R'amen brother!
     
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    OK, and both Stalin and Hitler once studied for the Christian priesthood, but there are a lot of Christians who'd insist that those two were not Christians even though in Hitler's case he paid a tithe to the church every year of his life and the church accepted it.
     
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    Such a "God" could not be a "thing". Human personality requires what would effectively be the illusion of separateness in order to self-identify. The existential problem for our race is that we are confronted in daily life by a dualism that, "behind the scenes", isn't true in the context of "God"/existence/the universe being one.
     
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    God creates the illusion of separateness through a veil, causing each of us to forget our true nature. Only by forgetting who we truly are can we explore creation with any meaning. If we realized that all contrast was simply an illusion, then all of experience would not mean anything. The gradual “rediscovery” of our true nature puts everything we have learned into perspective. Even knowing or suspecting the truth is still only scratching the surface of all of the mystery of existence. It is truly a beautiful thing.
    All of existence and creation is god at play, exploring and experiencing itself.
     
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    What you are saying can too easily be interpreted as "God lies".
     
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    lol, ok? Do people lie to eachother? Of course. So, since god is everyone and everything, then of course god “lies” in that sense. But that is only from our very very limited perspective. Our higher selves, also just fragments of the whole, know all of our life all at once, with no regard to time, as time is just an illusion that our artificially limited minds can deal with. We see “lies”, but that is just part of the experience. Would you watch a movie with a mystery as part of its plot if everything was just straightforward, easily guessed at? Of course not! It would have no meaning when you finally come to that “aha!” Moment, and even when you start to suspect the truth, there are many many “plot twists” that will leave you stunned with wonder and joy.
     
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    You aren't strictly British.
     

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