GOP Poll: 180,000 Covid Deaths Acceptable

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  1. DaveBN

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    I certainly agree with your closing statement. Agree to disagree, and all that Jazz.
     
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    platitudes mean nothing to me.
     
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    So if you don't accept something what does that mean? You just reject reality?

    Accepting or not it still happened. And not accepting it will do nothing.

    I guess I'm glad I'm more keen on accepting reality than you.
     
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    Either that or attempt to make course corrections.
     
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    If you're in denial meaning you don't accept reality, you have no ability in which to make appropriate course corrections.

    Reality is unacceptable to you you are in denial.
     
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    We'll pass that in a week or so. Probably closer to a quarter million this year. Death rates are going to climb in fall and winter.
     
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    Finding something unacceptable does not imply a denial of reality.

    I find it unacceptable when my dog poops in my house, but that doesn’t mean that I deny it happened or that I can’t take steps to correct the behavior.
     
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    I'm sorry if you don't accept that these people are dead that you are in denial of reality.
    If a dog poops in your house you can clean it up, you can potty train the dog or you can remove the dog.

    If people die you can't do anything.
     
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    Right, you can’t undead the dead, but you can take actions to address short comings that have caused people to die.

    Given that our death per million citizens rate is well above the world average I’d say there is room to improve.
     
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    Your site comes out almost identical - Global, 3.43%. US 3.07%
     
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    Sorry, it was 3 million predicted by the "experts".
     
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    Personally I think the numbers are bogus, inflated for political purposes, that Democrat governors intentionally sent infected patients into nursing home to kill more elderly vulnerable people, and that doctors, scientists and politicians are withholding the hydroxychloroquine treatments to kill people, and counting other deaths of covid-19 patients who died due to the comorbidity or non-covid patients who died of the flu and pneumonia to make the numbers higher and scare the public into closing down the economies.
     
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    But why cherry pick? What about the people who die of heart disease or traffic accidents? Why is that acceptable?
    So what are we doing wrong? You can't improve if you don't know how.
     
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    When addressing a pandemic the deaths associated with the pandemic are the ones to be addressed. Why deflect away from the topic of discussion?

    Im not a health expert nor an epidemiologist so I don’t claim to have all the answers on how to improve, but I’d say reaching out to countries like New Zealand and South Korea would be a start.
     
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    You’re free to personally believe that, but your beliefs aren’t backed up by real world facts.
     
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    Well their site comes up with 105 per million people. Don’t know what to tell you.

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    You're right. Just dozens of doctors who have treated actual patients with 100% success and other anecdotal evidence.
     
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    Treating patients with what? Link the studies. seems like this should be big news.
     
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    because it strikes me as disingenuous. You only care about the people that died during the pandemic because they're the only ones you can use for political leverage. We see the same exact disingenuousness when there is a mass shooting. Or a black person killed by police.
    What makes you think they didn't?
     
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    I’ll await evidence to support your claim. Of course you won’t be able to supply any because it isn’t true.

    Because up until recently the president made it a point to claim masks were a ploy against him. Don’t recall the practice coming out of South Korea.
     
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    It was big news. It wasn't a study. It was actual doctors saying it works. That their patients took it and all recovered. They were banned on social media and the video keeps getting taken down by YouTube, Facebook and Twitter.
     
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    Get back to me with a peer reviewed study. Thanks.
     
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    I didn't make a positive claim I have my opinion on something and asked you a question.
    Not sure how that means not reaching out to countries like New Zealand and South Korea. But than again you probably don't know if that occurred.

    I guess you can't make a rational point... Sad really.
     
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    Really because:
    Seems like a pretty positive claim to me.

    Provide evidence to to support this statement or retract it.
     
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    Is this the group that had some chiropractors and ophthalmologists in the background? It's interesting though that dozens of studies with actual patients and numbers show that HCQ doesn't work, but when some people in white coats vouch for it with unsubstantiated claims, people take it as gospel.
     
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