Govt is its own Special Interest

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  1. Dr. Righteous

    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    So what???
     
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    Serious response? Federal gov't growth 15%. Private growth 1%

    I hear that there is something called a deficit? Oh, except for those who claim that deficits are good and that a government can never grow too large for the good of its own citizens.
     
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    Well that's not going to change anytime soon so I guess we are all doomed.
     
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    akphidelt Banned

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    Deficits are money, we the private sector get, not sure why that's a bad thing when unemployment is 10% and a lack of money is our problem.

    You guys are illogical.
     
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    Well that statement was dumb...
     
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    Lol, what's dumb is you thinking it is dumb. Why would you not want more money in this country when people want jobs, people want to produce, and people want to consume?

    Why do you wish to continue to drive us in to a depression?

    Now that is dumb!
     
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    They're more money and plenty of consumption, but there aren't any jobs.

    I wonder why that is...Eh, I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually.
     
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    Lol, you are nuts... it is simple logic that America has applied for the last 70 years and just about every major developed country in the world does too. You guys are the ones that preach some logic that is only used by some third world country's. Let me know when you get smarter, then we can talk!
     
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    Notice how ever major country is most likely worse off than we are, if not in the same position. Are we better off? I didn't think so.

    I wonder what it would feel like to debate someone who wasn't inept. I guess I'll never know.
     
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    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    Creating more money and debt does not somehow improve the economy. Only labor can do that.

    You supporters of central economic planning are so silly.

    Inflation exports gold to other countries and it takes the jobs right with it. Learn basic economic principles.
     
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    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    You think the exponential growth of government is a good thing?
     
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    Nope. Just means so what if it happens. We're all doomed anyway.
     
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    I never looked at it like that. But governments are their own special interest groups. Their goal is to use the perks fo the lobbiest, and corporations to suck up to the broadcast media to get re-elected.
     
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    "So what" to economic destruction? I can't share your apathy.
     
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    Well I don't suppose you have a plan to get people to agree to cutting entitlements. Especially Social Security.
     
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    The left is silly, here is how they see it, we borrow or print money to inject into the economy.
    and this will cause people and companies to earn money to which we still owe on.


    Thats the silly just of it all.


    ...
     
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    Hilarious, Clint. Are people on welfare lobbyist? Are the SEIU, ACORN, and AFL-CIO the corporations you're talking about? How about the government-employee unions like the number one donor entity, the Teachers' Unions.

    The current government punishes uncooperative media outlets but outlets like MSDNC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NYT, LATimes, and the government-owned NPR don't need to be sucked up to. They're simply in the bag and taken for granted.

    The politicians are concerned about themselves first, their families second, their friends third, and there is no fourth. The government--that would be the bureaucrats--are a self-perpetuating monster that consumes all and produces nothing but crap. The "Education System" doesn't produce education. It produces more and more jobs for more and more people earning more and more money and getting more and more benefits and bigger and bigger pensions. And the rest of us pay the bill.
     
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    That pretty much sums it up. They also have the goal of selling snake oil. The currently popular remedy is, "I'll set up government institutions that will take better care of you better than you can take care of yourself, and I'll make sure you receive material benefits without you having to do anything in return except vote for me." Yep - that's a real popular piece of lying bullsh*t - from some real popular lying pieces of sh*t.
     
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    this is really very good.

    they have over 110 trillion in sub agency investment accounts and they cry for more tax money.

    what a deal they control the markets have inside info and they invest to.

    Its called the comprehensive annual reports for the states.

    You wil be shocked!@


    http://cafr1.com/
     
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    Lol, what do people work for?

    Lol, so you think labor is going overseas because of gold??

    Haha, now that is a first! Embarrassing
     
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    hows that?
    .......
     
  23. Dr. Righteous

    Dr. Righteous Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, I don't. You cannot educate stubborn people. They do not realize that Social Security is going to collapse eventually, as all Ponzi Schemes eventually do. Libertarians want to phase Social Security out before that happens, while the statists want to wait until it violently collapses and causes much pain and anguish for those who rely on it.
     
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    Wealth, or something that will retain the value of their labor (like gold).

    What's embarassing is that you don't understand basic economics. When you inflate the money supply, that causes gold to leave the country. With the gold (capital) goes the jobs. You can't export wealth and expect it to create jobs. Well...maybe in liberal La-La land you can.
     
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    How do you cut entitlements since that is after all what government uses to sucker people into paying them money?

    Are they not contracts that are required to be upheld?
     

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