Handcuffed woman dies after deputy forgets to shut patrol car door, GA officials say

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Look, just because a car door is open does not mean a woman will just fall out.
    This woman was not a little child.
    She could have easily slouched over to the other side away from the open door if she realized it was not secured.

    More than likely she intentionally tried to exit the vehicle when she realized the door was open and she could escape.
     
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  2. Across the pond

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    And in that scenario, the cops would still be partly to blame.
     
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    Its not fake police abuses, the abuses are real and they are not just inflicted onto poor inner city blacks. Those cops who abused their position were rarely held accountable.

    That set the stage for BLM. Like all good propaganda, the BLM propaganda used a grain of truth (police abuse) as the foundation for their agenda, and set a match to peoples frustration and anger.

    Its also easy for an insurgent movement to incite long term poor people to violence and rioting because poor people have little to lose. These poor people become pawns of the insurgents.

    Its not right or honest, but this isn't about honesty. Its about a socialist insurgency and coup.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    Perhaps, but I think that would turn it into a very different argument.
     
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    Yes, sure.
     
  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Donor

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    How can you say that? She knew the risk of jumping out of a moving car. Especially while handcuffed.

    I suppose your argument is going to be that she wasn't in her rational mind, was having a psychotic episode, and the police should have better "protected" her (from herself).
     
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    What's your confusion? I'm agreeing with you - the cops would have some responsibility but it changes the scenario if she deliberately falls out the vehicle.
     
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    If you have full control of your facilities, I would agree. But if you are handcuffed in the back seat of a police cruiser, you do not have full control of your facilities. Your hands cannot grasp onto anything if there was a sharp turn, how much you want to make a bet you will fall out of the car. Still want to claim it is the passenger fault here?
     
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    that is a possibility, however, it is still the police officer duty, per police procedure, to fully secure the person in handcuffs while transporting them to the station for booking. Because the officer did not follow ALL the protocols, you cannot put the entire blame on her.

    Second, from the article, it appears she also may have had a mental health breakdown at the time of the police confrontation. We do know, from the article, that she was arrested, without incident, and placed in the car. In many cases, the likelihood of a person intentionally trying to get away from the police would be remote. That usually happens when the person being detained resists to the fullest extent possible. That is also why the protocols are in place in which to keep the person secure while transporting.
     
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    The proper procedure is extremely important, however, from the article, it may appear she may have had a mental health issue. I am just glad the police officer didn't shoot first and ask questions later routine.
     
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    That is another shining example of why cops need to be trained to deal with mental illnesses. That should have been received as her needing MORE attention, not less.

    Unless somebody comes up with solid evidence of how an officer can forget to fasten the detainee's seat belt AND forget to close the door, I stick by this being a cover-up for something more egregious. Should we really be okay with this person having a weapon when he can't remember a seat belt and door? /smdh
     
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    I will tell you that it is sometimes hard to tell if someone is having a mental illness or a medical emergency. I still think the police officer should be more than reprimanded on this one. I am still trying to figure out why he didn't put the seat belt on her when she was placed in the back seat of the car.
     
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    Because this didn't happen the way they are claiming. This is a cover story for something else and my instinct says that they put this bs lie out in an attempt to mitigate any community backlash over another black person dying while in police custody.
     
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    I don't know, I will wait to see what the Georgia Investigation Office, their version of the FBI, on what happened and why.
     
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    We can put 90% of the blame on her.

    Just because the officer did not follow his duty, does not mean the blame is on him if something bad happens as a result of that.
     
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    I do think this is the woman whose parents called expecting paramedics to come to the scene because their daughter who was mentally ill was in the middle of a crisis and they wanted her hospitalized for her safety.
     
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    a handcuffed person in police custody is like a child in an adult's custody, they are responsible for their wellbeing
     
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    You put 90% blame on the person who died, based on your speculation?
    Once she is in custody, the police are responsible for her safety.
     
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    It is entirely possible she unlocked her seat belt and opened the car door and jumped. The video will dispel all the conspiretards’ accusations.
     
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    No seatbelt or open door alarms on the car? Sounds like BS to me. Dig further.
     
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    You can not accidentally fall out of a car. Sorry. She saw the open door and thought she could do a movie roll and start running. Reality smacked her in the face. Of course the police are responsible for not closing the door but no way she just fell out. She’s also responsible for trying to run. Not buying it.
     
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    I hope a stupid jury doesn't award this woman's family any money.
     
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    Vid is out. She did this to herself, going in a straight line doesn’t fling people out of cars. We lost nothing here.
     
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    You are assuming that she tried to escape and i have not seen any reports verifying that. however, whether she did or not, I would put most of the blame on the officer. He was his duty to secure her properly, period.

    what you are doing is trying to blame the small child who wondered off because momm forgot to put walking harness on the kid.
     
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