Handcuffed woman dies after deputy forgets to shut patrol car door, GA officials say

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  1. MJ Davies

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    Black people are ALWAYS "at fault" in encounters that lead to their injuries and deaths around LEOs.
     
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    Normally putting a seat belt on is standard procedure. Maybe they let her lay on her side since she was resisting. If you've ever had a wild person in the back of your car, it's quite a challenge.
     
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    From the body cam, we can see both the front driver's side door and the front passenger side door open. The video is edited because we don't see how the deputies put her in the car. And normally, these police vehicles have cameras facing the back passenger's side as well, so that has not been released.

    You never let anyone lay on their side in a police car, even drunk persons who are about to pass out for instance.
     
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    The Antebellum South attitude of the 1940s, 50s, and 60s are rearing its ugly head again.
     
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    At this point police and their unions should support the disarming of patrol officers and an end to all police stops and spontaneous arrests. The job of the police should be to act as witnesses to document crimes so that warrants for arrest can be issued by judges.

    The police should have very little contact with the American public.
     
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    That ugly head has never been hard to see.
     
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    They never stopped. They just kept it under wraps better so they could pretend that all their targets are lying about it.

    Even Baby Bush said "WTF?" at the Stain's inauguration speech. LOL
     
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    Cop should go to prison for murder. A year in general population, or life without parole in solitary confinement.

    I would say $100 million dollars in punitive damages is appropriate. From the police pension fund.

    I wonder if the cop was deliberately giving her a "nickel ride", as a method of torture.
     
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    It's not possible. Police vehicle rear doors do not open from inside.
     
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    It depends on department policy. If it's stated that they MUST put the seatbelt on, then it's a violation of policy. I'd call it a good policy.
     
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    How to tell people you don't understand the law without saying you don't understand the law. There's nothing here worth 100 mil, that's just more comedy.
     
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    I could bounce you out in a half mile or less if one door wasn't secure.

    They should be 100% to blame.

    Of course he does...he's a badge bunny.

    Also remember: many police vehicles have a rear seat made of hard plastic. It's fairly slippery, with no upholstery and NOTHING to hold.

    I suspect the GIO is waiting for a delivery. This will need plenty of WHITEWASH.

    Yes, it does. She was in custody, they are responsible for her safety. Period, full stop.

    No, it's not. Police cruiser rear doors DO NOT OPEN from inside.
     
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    Then you're saying that a person who throws themselves out of a moving vehicle is completely blameless in their own death. That makes zero sense to me. (To be clear, I'm not saying that's necessarily what happened in this case)
     
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    Works for me. Less worry about blue light bandits and harassment. I might see fewer Explorers racing past me at 90+MPH on the highway.

    I would prefer $100 billion in punitive damages, actually.

    I'm willing to give the cop the benefit of the doubt-he may have just been incompetent, not malicious, so just lock him up forever instead of nailing him to a cross and leaving him until his bones fall apart.
     
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    I hope her family is rewarded money, cops need to remember to keep citizens safe after they handcuff them
     
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    No, you couldn't.
    They're partly to blame. I'm former LEO, you wouldn't know a BB if one checked your cheeks.

    Some have doors that can be opened from the rear if unlocked by the driver. I can tell you've never seen the inside of a police car.
     
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    Ok, now you just don't understand penalties under the law. Wanna put them on double secret probation too?

    LOL 100 bil, why not 1000 million billion?
     
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    Well, that explains why you believe cops can do no wrong. What was your preferred road for nickel rides?

    I owned a former police cruiser. Like almost all (going back to-at least-the 1970s), the doors could not be opened from inside and the rear window switches were disabled.
     
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    I'd rather see bad cops shrieking in agony as they are nailed to crosses.
     
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    I had MANY different marked and unmarked and some allowed for the rear to be unlocked by a driver.

    "I'd rather see bad cops shrieking in agony as they are nailed to crosses." Oh yeah that's normal for sane people.
     
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    The best, and probably the real reason for sovereign immunity, is our inability to generate enough GDP to pay for the actual damages caused by the corrupt criminal, and negligent acts of government. Jail time or corporal punishment may be the only remedies we can afford.
     
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    Then you're saying that a person who throws themselves out of a moving vehicle is completely blameless in their own death. That makes zero sense to me. (To be clear, I'm not saying that's necessarily what happened in this case)

    (Sorry, Kazenatsu, no idea what happened with the editing to make my previous reply answer you....)
     
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    I have so many questions.

    Was the police car involved in an accident?

    Was it a normal swing door ( not suicide door), and it didn't close and latch upon taking off?

    How fast was the car going?

    Such a weird set of circumstances.
     
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    I would say, predominantly guilty at a bare minimum.
    The personal wasn't mentally well, and they took her in their custody.
    And specifically, placing somebody in your custody is a massive thing.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/custody
    the legal right or duty to care for someone or something, especially a child after its parents have separated or died:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/custody
    immediate charge and control (as over a ward or a suspect) exercised by a person or an authority

    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/american_english/custody
    the legal right or duty to take care of or keep someone or something; the act of taking care of something or someone



    And seriously. Cops who let somebody escape, resulting into a death.
    The insanity. Do they hire just anybody there to be a cop? Are they desperate?
    Somebody working for Fedex losing their cargo because of failing to close a door would get fired.
    Let's be clear that this is far and far worse.
     
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    For sure the cops bear a degree of guilt, probably a significant degree. But the argument that they are 100% to blame for her death is a bit ridiculous IMO. An important question would be to what degree it was clear the suspect was mentally unwell, and whether the cops knew of her history of mental illness (probably unlikely in the moment, I imagine). I think the answer to that would sway their degree of culpability one way or the other. To say they were 100% to blame, you'd have to establish the woman was completely out of her senses. That doesn't appear to be the case from what has been reported.
     
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