Handwriting Analysis Done On Obama Birth Certificate

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  1. rahl

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    there is nothing to doubt. nothing in my statement is incorrect. it is a objective verifiable fact of reality that obama was born in hawii in 1961, he provided a state issued birth certificate that was verified by the state(under a REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION) and birthers remain retarded and 0 for 157 in court
     
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    Since that is objectively untrue, it is clear that you never read any of them, and that you were lying when you said you would admit your error.

    Of course, we all knew that, but it's always nice to get confirmation.

    Had you actually read them, you would have found that all of these details have a single explanation; MRC compression and optimization. No intelligent human forger would split a single signature among different layers as part of a process of forgery. MRC compression, on the other hand, distributes everything based upon specific characteristics of color and quality. The only explanation for the split signatures in the PDF is the separation of the original signatures via compression.

    All of this (at least all of this which is true) has the same single explanation; MRC compression. There are no font inconsistencies, those are a figment of birther imaginations. The PDF was separated into a single color JPEG and eight monochrome bitmasks, all of which is completely ordinary. Compression is maximized by removal of as many colors as mathematically reasonable to their own bitmasks, stored at roughly one quarter the resolution of the color JPEG. But since the algorithms are completely unintelligent, they create objects that are unlike anything an intelligent human forger would create.

    Here (for example) is one of those objects. You will note that it contains only part of a date stamp (inexplicably missing the first, second and fourth digits of the year), part of the preprinted text from the standard birth certificate form, and a single cursive stoke from the handwritten date by Dr. Sinclair. It is clear proof that whatever created the different components of the PDF, it was not a rational, thinking human being. It instead bears all the characteristics of a product of an unthinking, automatic computer optimization algorithm.

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    There are also two components that include nothing visible on the birth certificate at all. Here is the smaller of them:

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    As you will note, it consists entirely of meaningless squiggles and dots. A theory of forgery would require that this object be deliberately created for the purpose of promoting the forgery. I ask you... what conceivable way does this (and the other meaningless layer) promote the forgery?

    The simple fact is that nothing in the PDF can actually be explained by a deliberate forgery by an intelligent human being. On the other hand, all of them can be explained by a single, simple, prosaic explanation of MRC compression.

    Every single one.
     
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    Paul Vallely was never a CIA intelligence officer. [/quote]

    I know this to be a lie. Every genuine expert who has looked at the PDF has declared it devoid of any signs of forgery.

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  5. scott e.

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    sez you
     
  6. scott e.

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    the truth won't come out tomorrow, but it will eventually. absolute power corrupts absolutely... eventually.
     
  8. SFJEFF

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    One website?

    My favorite one is this:
    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/
    I find this one harder to navigate but full of useful info:
    http://www.thefogbow.com/

    But the only one that really is necessary is this one:
    http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

    In this one website the State of Hawaii has posted its many confirmations that President Obama's birth certificate is genuine, going back to 2008- when Barack Obama was just a Senator.

    The problem you have is:
    a) you cite video's on Youtube- Youtube is the refuge of crackpot theories.
    b) what makes you think this is a 'retired cia expert'?
    c) how do you explain the State of Hawaii- under a Republican Governor- confirming that Barack Obama birth certificate is authentic and that he was born there?

    Think about this- you find a Youtube video more convincing than the actual officials confirming what the actual document says. How on earth do you think this conspiracy could possibly be taking place?
     
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    Well frankly since this has been discussed, analyzed etc for 4 years now.....

    and Barack Obama was recently re-elected.

    It really doesn't matter much whether you admit you were wrong or not.

    You are wrong. All the Birther claims are demonstrably idiotic. But its a free country you can believe in any whacky conspiracy theory you want to.

    There are people who believe we never landed on the Moon. See- you have company.
     
  10. KAMALAYKA

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    Nice picture.

    How many of those men have you seen the birth certificate of?
     
  12. KAMALAYKA

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    Wrong, commie.
     
  13. SFJEFF

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    Hmmm 'commie'

    Is that because he discusses 'commas'?

    Or is it because your astute analysis of his technical discussion of computer software allows you to distinguish the Marxist subtext in his analysis?

    Or- and this is my favorite speculation- do you just assume that anyone who doesn't buy into the Birther idiocy must be a communist?
     
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    Unfortunately, my background is in astronomy. I will admit that basic programming is the extent of my computer knowledge, so I cannot comment on the information his post.
     
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    All but van Bueren. . .
     
  16. scott e.

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    j this is more obottalkingpointsish than usual, what's up ?? don't forget GW started out as a brit, that's the argument that scares the bots. first you have to consider, what happened to allow him to be president and not king.
     
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    I suspect that is some obscure joke that I don't get. Much like whatever the picture is supposed to have meant.

    Meanwhile, other than Barack Obama, what President's have you seen the birth certificate for?
     
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    No. I am just a troll.
     
  19. SFJEFF

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    Wouldn't that apply equally to the 'analysis' in the Youtube video your presented as evidence? But that didn't stop you from jumping on the Birther train.

    Still waiting for a logical explanation of how this theory works in your mind.

    Let me help you.

    The evidence that supports Barack Obama being born in Hawaii:
    a) the certified Birth Certificate issued in 2007 by Hawaii showing Barack Obama born in Hawaii
    b) the two newspaper announcements from 1961 announcing his birth.
    c) In 2008 the Republican director of Health of Hawaii confirmed that she had checked the birth certificate and Barack Obmaa was born in Hawaii.
    d) In 2008 the Republican Governor- and McCain supporter- of Hawaii- confirmed Obama was born in Hawaii.
    e) in 2011 the State of Hawaii issued a certified copy of Barack Obama's original certificate.
    f) In 2011 the Democratic Director of Health confirmed that she had checked the original and that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.
    g) in 2011 the Democratic Governor of Hawaii- who knew Obama's parents- confirmed that he knew them when Obama was born in Hawaii.

    Now- given all of that- create a semi-plausable theory that would account from everything going back to 1961.

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    You don't need to embrace your troll-dom.
     
  20. KAMALAYKA

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    You may not be the sharpest crayon in the box, but boy are you persistent.
     
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    LOL... I win.
     
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    In a crayon box with Birthers, I am always the sharpest crayon.

    Birthers are the broken nubby crayons with the paper torn off.
     
  23. WongKimArk

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    And so how do you pretend to tell me that I am wrong?

    From 1986 to 1994, as an Information technologist for Baxter International at their headquarters in Deerfield, Illinois, I led the team that selected and introduced digital scanning, printing and computer graphics technologies to the corporation. As part of their new business development team in the late 90s I led technical production of the company’s first CD-Rom and Web Based electronic catalogs, involving the scanning, optimization and publication of digital images for more than 200 thousand medical/surgical products. I also was a core member of the team that initiated and created Baxter’s original internet capabilities and web presence, and then did the same for spin-off company Allegiance Healthcare.

    At Cardinal Health, then the 16th largest corporation in America, I was Vice President of Electronic Commerce from 1999 to 2001 involved in all aspects of the technical and marketing design of the most comprehensive web presence in the segment, and lead author on the seminal white paper that still serves as the foundation for e-commerce in the medical and pharmaceutical distribution industries. I was part of the strategy team that husbanded the entire industry through the dot.com bubble and established the Global Healthcare Exchange (GHX) as the sole successful e-marketplace for medical suppliers and distributors.

    Today I am a Visiting Professor at DeVry University’s Keller Graduate School of Management where my most popular course remains “Foundations of E-Commerce.”

    If you don't bleieve me, ask Scott. He knows exactly who I really am, and he has stalked me enough on-line to be able to confirm the details of my resume.
     
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    Here you go- annoying Birthers with facts and truth again.

    You know that is like fingernails on a chalkboard to them.
     
  25. scott e.

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    but which troll billygoats gruff ??

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    if you had argued with each other from the beginning (obots), it would have been more believable. i could be a double obot agent and you might not even know it.
     

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