Hegseth, etc., and why we are here

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  1. Bowerbird

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    Trump is setting up a kakistocracy
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    I think the best explanation I have heard so far has been “Top level government positions should not be chosen by the same method as speed dating”
     
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    The fact that he failed at his two previous management positions is also of concern
     
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    He would only have a say along with a number of other senior advisors.
    Leon Panetta was a democrat advisor before given great responsibility.
    Austin is like putting another military man in the chain. The idea is to have a civilian in that position.
    The most powerful man in the US has dementia or have you forgot why he was removed from the democratic ticket?
    And yet we were in better shape on the border, on the economy and on national defense while he was president. Did you happen to notice how the stock market took off after Trump won? The same stock market that you were bragging about when it it 40,000. Not to mention Biden's steady mental decline.
     
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    Yes we want a cross-dressing bureaucrat in that position, definitely not a masculine battle hardened combat veteran. We need sissy-boys all the way down. Nothing puts the fear of God into America's enemies more than women and progressive men. This is a test of Republican senators, if they cave on this one, this Presidency is dead already.
     
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    Bottom line is the cross dresser competent y/n? Often they are waaay more competent than a boozing womanising Neanderthal. Usually someone who is a cross dresser is MORE competent because they have had to prove themselves. Besides wearing a dress instead of pants won’t affect your judgement but alcoholism WILL
     
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    So you don't any links to any of it... just more of the lame" I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend" liberal articles with unnamed anonymous sources no one knows their names ...
    You have NOT provided the links requested...these lame articles are getting old
    • Fox News: Colleagues at Fox News reported that Hegseth often smelled of alcohol before going on air and complained about being hungover. Despite this, he never missed a scheduled appearance.
    Tell us @Patricio Da Silva
    """according to 10 current and former Fox employees who spoke with NBC News.""
    Tell us the names of these 10 people

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    Being there is nothing in your links to back up your claims... just more unverified unnamed anonymous sources garbage...
    Let me offer people who worked directly with Pete 8 hours a day for 5 years tell what what they think... they had the balls to put their names on it... they had the balls to publicly say you and your links are full of it...

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    https://x.com/RCamposDuffy

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    The current SECDEF deserted his post for a week and no one knew his whereabouts. Hegseth would be an upgrade.
     
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    A transgender person's judgement is already impacted because they are mentally ill.
     
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    That defines Biden's administration.
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva

    ""His drinking habits have occurred too recently to entrust someone with nuclear code clearence, and other things he has said and done....""
    ""Yes, he's a punk. I've seen to many A holes like him in my life, and they deserve squat, let alone that job. He, as a human being, doesn't come even remotely close to the demands of such a weighty position of power.""

    Here is another "Colleagues at Fox News" that shows how pathetic your links show articles that are a lie

    "As a former Fox booking producer, I've never heard a negative remark about Hegseth--until now."
    https://x.com/BreannaMorello/status/1864292312848757096
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    Was that not a medical issue?
     
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    Lols! Faux News wouldn’t know if its backside was on fire! These are the same people who backed a Putin loving little girl spanking weirdo like Tucker. Hmmmmm come to that I wonder if Pete joined Tucker in ball tanning?
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    Irrelevant. He was supposed to let his chain of command know he was leaving his post. He violated the first general order: I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved. Austin was properly relieved.
     
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    That's what they said about blacks in the military.
     
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    No one takes a man in a dress seriously
     
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    Just keep this in mind....

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    Not really. Remember separation of children and children in cages? Cruelty should not be the aim. As for steady mental decline - did you ever actually listen to any of Trumps rambling brain farts he called rally speeches? I still have a bet out that it will not be long between his inauguration and the 25th Amendment
     
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    Not a huge position like sec def and did they have the same history of rape allegations, drunkenness and white nationalism? Wearing funny clothes is a lot less of an issue than rape
     
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    Yes, I remember and many of those pictures turned out to be under the Obama administration.

    And how many children now are ending up in child slavery.
     
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    An important say, and function, such as the confirmation of an order for a nuclear strike, which is he required to do. You make it sound
    like his role is an afterthought, nothing could be further from the truth.
    he was Clinton's CoS and before that he was Director of the OMB
    Then your ideas are contradicting eeach other.

    See, it's Interesting, then why in hell are you supporting Hegseth, who was a major in the Army NG?

    Anway, That's an insult to those men of statesmanship, education, experience because your point assumes that such men
    can't shed their uniform and become civilians. If you point were true, then Eisenhower should never have been president, not to mention the many other former military men and women who became civilian leaders, such as Sen. Joni Ernst, who was a lt Colonel in the Army who now sits on the Armed Services committee in the US Senate, whose vote is required for Hegseth pass the Senate Hearing, and it's clear she is going to give Hegseth a thumbs down.

    The POINT, kriman, is not that the leader of Defense, and the nation, and other civilian roles of leadership, did NOT come from the military ranks, the point is that they ARE civilians when occupying the role. Thus, men and women of gravitas, statesmanship and experience ARE so capable, but not a punk like Hegseth.and your support of him just exposed your contradiction.
    1. There is ZERO evidence he has dementia, and the last people on earth qualified to make such a determination are media, and people like you.
    2. He wasn't 'removed', he volunteered to acquiesce under political pressure because of his poll numbers dropping, owing to PUBLIC PERCEPTION, not because he actually had 'dementia', which he most certainly didn't, nor does he currently, have.
    Oh, yeah..... this fantasy about the “border being better under Trump.” Really? Family separations, kids in cages, a so-called “wall” that was more patchwork than grandma’s quilt, and -- get this -- record-breaking illegal crossings by the end of his term (triple that of two years prior). If that’s “better shape,” then I’m the Pope, and this is a Vatican comedy hour.

    Now, the economy. Sure, the stock market went up. But you know what else went up? The national debt -- by nearly $2 trillion! That’s not economics; that’s a pyromaniac throwing cash on a bonfire and calling himself a financial genius. Trump’s tax cuts funneled money to corporations and billionaires faster than you can say “trickle-down scam.” And those working-class folks? Left holding the bag, as always. Let’s not forget how he fumbled COVID-19 so badly that the economy tanked like a drunk driver rolling his car into a ditch. Some legacy.

    National defense? Oh, please. The guy called NATO “obsolete,” cozied up to dictators like a lost puppy, and left allies like the Kurds twisting in the wind. He didn’t strengthen defense; he shredded credibility. And morale? The military was practically rolling its collective eyes every time he opened his mouth. Remember when he called fallen soldiers “suckers and losers”? Yeah, a real Churchillian figure there.

    And the stock market? Sure, it jumped after he won -- because Wall Street loves a deregulation party. But guess what? It’s been hitting new highs under Biden, too. You want to give Trump credit for the stock market while ignoring Biden’s role? That’s like applauding the starter of a relay race while pretending the finisher didn’t cross the line.

    As for Biden’s mental health? Come on. This “mental decline” shtick is tired. He’s given speeches, held summits, passed major legislation, and handled a pandemic recovery -- all while your boy was trying to find where the “hamberders” are on a map of fast-food joints. If Biden’s in “decline,” then Trump spent four years playing mental limbo at the lowest bar imaginable.

    So let’s call this what it is: selective memory, revisionist history, and a big, steaming pile of partisan BS. Trump left the country like a house after a frat party -- trashed, chaotic, and smelling faintly of regret. The only people claiming otherwise are still clutching their MAGA hats like they’re blankies in a thunderstorm.
     
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    Give it up @Patricio Da Silva.... you got nothing... and you have not been selling your fake news narrative at all. Joe is in cognitive decline... spin it the best you can, but it ain't working. Our nation is at national security risk leaving him in office.
     
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    And yet, you said he is not good enough because he only commanded a platoon.
     
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    You asked for links, i gave you links.

    now please pester someone else

    Your 'shoot-the-messenger' tactic is a piss poor debate strategy.

    How so? No journalist could ever do his or her job if he or she exposed the identities of their sources, no source would ever leak to a journalist if they knew their identities would be published, and we, the public, would put more into the dark. The important fact to be mindful of is if the story has been republished, because standard journalism is to not republish the originator's story unless the source can confirm that the story ahs been verified from three separate sources. So, validation comes from circulation. But, after all these years, you still don't understand this, not to mention you have used similar sources, yourself.

    If 10 fox news employees were complaining about Hegseth's drinking, that should raise a red flag, but fellows like you are going to ignore it, and put the man in a strategic leadership role.

    Wonderful.
     

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