Here is how bad CV19 is

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No. He didn't "have to be hospitalized" due to his condition.

    He had to be hospitalized because he's the POTUS.
     
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    Is that why they had to give him an experimental cocktail and steroids? Do they normally hospitalize the POTUS whenever he has a flu or cold?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For Biden what do you think the Doctors would have done? Suppose Biden was the president at the time? Tell him to wear his mask?

    Science is wonderful due to experiments.
     
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    They would have hospitalized him because the virus is serious. You think they would hospitalize the POTUS for a minor cough or flu???
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you think Trump appeared to you to be very very sick and really in need of the ventilator? I think Trump went to the hospital for constant care by professionals is all I think of that. Now Trump came out super fast. Isn't that a wonderful sign that not all the old men are on ventilators and dying in their lonely state in a hospital bed?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wonderful that they had that experimental cocktail and those steroids isn't it?

    Had Biden been president his cure was to wear his mask and keep hiding in his own basement.
     
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    And what was Trump's cure? Not hydroxychloeoquine that's for sure
    He knew it didn't work and kept pushing it for months.
     
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    "Experimental".

    And yes, they give the POTUS every possible treatment that will help.

    Duh.
     
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    So Trump says COVID is just the flu for months, tells people to not get tested, and then when he gets it, he goes to the hospital first chance he gets? Some kind of leader. Sorry but not all us peasants get 12 doctors to look after us.
     
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    Run for President then.
     
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    England is going into lockdown because the belief is that without that our hospitals will be totally overwhelmed and medical staff will have to decide who lives and dies and because the belief is that if England does not stop it now it could have 4,000 or more deaths a day.
     
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    Irrelevant.

    If the POTUS gets a fever, the POTUS goes to the hospital.
     
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    That is a total misrepresentation of what Trump did. When Democrats find themselves not being honest, time to do more research.

    When have you been sick from CV19? When were you denied treatment?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump has never at any point declared CV19 is harmless. And he says so often it makes me sick to have to tell Democrats this, even one death is far too many per Trump.
     
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    Trump never said that. Not even close. Not be tested? Well per my own doctor, and I talked to her about this, when you need to be tested, there is a good reason why. Do you have trouble breathing? Do you taste and smell things or not? They have a rather extensive list of things they must know first and if you need a test, the doctor has you tested. Why did my granddaughter and her husband get tested for CV19?

    Because of two things. First was a friend they spent time with told them he had CV19. Then when they felt the illness, they told the doctor. And the Doctor insisted they be tested for CV19. Trump has nothing at all to say about how Idaho Tests for CV19.
     
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    “We have tested over 40 million people,” Trump said July 4. “By so doing, we show cases, 99% of which are totally harmless."

    I guess he doesn't count any long term complications that people are having.
     
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    Wrong, this is how bad it is. Check this photograph. These are mobile morgues, there were 45 in total at ONE hospital. That's how bad COVID is. Not your anecdotal tale of some hillbilly family that took a break from chugging natty ice to shoot some defenseless animals.Sorry to be hostile but I'm at my fkin limit with this COVID denial ****.

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    “When you do testing to that extent, you’re going to find more people, you’re going to find more cases,” Trump said. “So I said to my people, ‘Slow the testing down, please.’ They test and they test.”
     
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    Then they were lucky - how lucky only time will tell

    https://academic.oup.com/eurheartj/article/41/39/3827/5910781

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2772399

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    Basically research is suggesting it very much depends on how much virus you were exposed to but a proportion of people getting Covid who are asymptomatic, will have had changes in thier blood results suggesting they have had damage to their hearts. What we don’t know is what that means long term
     
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    Some posters are never pleased with good news. My granddaughter and her husband went out hunting. Does that sound to you like they are dreadfully sick? Why on earth must you and our local Democrats constantly spread bad news?

    If Biden turns out to win, watch our press swiftly change from deaths to recoveries as the standard to use. Suddenly they will want just good news for Biden.

    Trump however will win. We will therefore be treated by our own media as were we mushrooms. To be covered with Bullcrap and kept in the dark.
     
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^notice the remarks are not actual quotes, nor in context^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Trump reported that it was a JOKE. Trump is not allowed to tell Jokes by Democrats.

    Trump gets a lot of poor press but the press hates Trump.

    Reminds me of this scene from Band of Brothers.

     
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    He must have been very ill or they would not have given him the steriods. Normally steriods make people get a worse dose of Covid because they weaken the immune system. However if people become seriously ill, at a certain point the immune system goes crazy trying to beat the virus. This is called Cytokine Storm and that itself tends to kill people. It is only at this point that Steriods are helpful as they calm the immune system down. Of course being so ill Trump would not have recovered so quickly unless there was something else in the equation which appears to be the trial antibodies he took. Without them he may have died. (the fact that they seem to have worked for him unfortunately does not mean they will end up being of the quality to turn this pandemic round. Research continues)
     
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    Okay I am willing to take that bet - winner to donate to the forum
     

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