Hitler's hatred of the Jews (part 2)

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  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Of course it was political we did the same damn thing here in America.

    So when can we put that to the test I want to move in!

    Then I can come on here and say what a hateful racist you are when you kick my ass to the curb for disrupting your household
     
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    I'm glad you leaned that and have admitted you are wrong. And?


    No. If I kicked all people of your race to the curb for you disturbing my house, then yes! That would make me an evil ****ing racist bastard! I mean, I still wouldn't be as bad as Hitler . . . whom you keep defending . . . but it would at least be closer!
     
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    Yet another backwards interpretation wow.

    Sure you would you'd be revoking my yard meat household citizenship and exterminating me!

    It would be identical to Hitler!
     
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    Reading fail. I haven't supported any kind of removal of citizenship, much less extermination. You are making **** up again to avoid criticizing Hitler. A common pattern. No, what I just said isn't actually identical to what Hitler did. A child could understand this.
     
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    Well all people of my race would disrupt your household because they're going to share my identical politics, because we share the same culture. This has been explained to you what now for the 10th time?

    You'd support my extermination in a New York second if I were to live with your family in less than 24 hours I guarantee it.

    You would exterminate me! (So would Ron)

    I don't know why you don't admit it?
     
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    Bull ****. I'm sure there are plenty of people of your race who are actual decent human beings, no matter how much you claim otherwise. Regardless, I have never, and will never demand the citizenship of their entire race be revoked, which you continue to advocate for.

    Setting aside the fact that this isn't actually a real sentence, your are making up bull **** again. No. I don't support victimizing an entire race for, well, anything . . . unlike the Nazis that you have explicitly defended for doing exactly that.
     
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    But we're all going to do the same thing because we all share the same political beliefs and if you kick my ass to the curb you'd kick everybody's ass to the curb you're the one making **** up not me.

    I don't know why you don't simply admit that you'd exterminate me in a New York second no way would you be able to handle me in your household for 24 hours.
     
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    You are now changing the goalposts. If you broke into my home, then yes, I might use legally appropriate physical force to stop you. That has nothing to do with the discussion.
     
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    Nice maneuver bravo!

    Move the goal posts and then accuse me of moving the goal post now that's precious!

    You know damn well the conversation is not about anybody breaking and entering your house.

    Hitler used what was legally appropriate for him too so here we are!

    This is about you showing your love and generosity and inviting me into your household as a refugee just like Germany did with the Jews, and I assure you you'll exterminate me before 24 hours is up guaranteed!

    The real question here is why won't you admit it?
     
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    And of course the moral of the above exchange, is that it's hatred when Hitler does it but just a okay Jim dandy when yard meat does it!

    Bottom line yard meat would do the same thing as Hitler. He just admitted he would exterminate me. By force if necessary.

    And let's get Ron over here, how about it Ron same deal for you invite me into your house as a refugee and let's see if you can hang in there for 24 hours without exterminating me!

    I assure you I'll come back here and say that you hated me and that's why you exterminated me.
     
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    Yes. They did. It was part of their literal ****ing party platform. You've admitted that you didn't know that until this week, but you have no more excuse now.
     
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    I haven't done what Hitler did and haven't excused what Hitler did. This is a false accusation.
     
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    False accusation as usual.
    I didn't know there was any explicit hatred expressed in the program only to find out that there's not and we have a couple of people here who have an extreme view of what constitutes hatred.

    The fact is that you express the same methods that Hitler used but it's okay if you do it and it's hatred of Hitler does it my what a strange world we live in today.
     
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    You express the same program when applying it to me and those of my political bent and by force no less, now what you're going to try to duck out of it LOL everybody read it.

    But you would excuse yourself for doing the same thing Hitler dead
     
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    Since you're not posting sources, I don't know where you're getting your information.

    The National Socialist Party platform was essentially meaningless because of all the exceptions that were made along the way and the internal social dissent like the Rosenstrasse Protest(3).

    Hitler's interactions with Blacks were too infrequent to gauge his true sentiments but the myth that he snubbed Jesse Owens is just that, a myth(4).

    What is not reported in the excerpt below is that there were other witnesses who saw the two men shake hands and speak but that fact too has been repressed.

    Finally, I can only assume that if Blacks were able to serve in Germany's extremely diverse WW 2 military(5), they would have been able to keep their citizenship but, to be honest, I haven't studied Germany's citizenship laws of that era.



    (1) “Black Nazis! A Study Of Racial Ambivalence In Nazi Germany's Military Establishment: Non German Ethnic Minority And Foreign Volunteers, Conscripts, Laborers And Po Ws, 1940 1945”
    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/s...ial-ambivalence-in-nazi-germany-s-military-es






    (2). “Black Nazis”
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/26776519-black-nazis?utm_medium=api&utm_source=book_widget

    EXCERPT “Contrary to what mainstream history dictates, Nazi Germany was far more practical, reasonable, and tolerant vis--vis race, race-mixing, ethnicity, and international relations than one might think.” CONTINUED


    (3) “The Women’s Rosenstrasse Protest”
    https://historycollection.co/taking-stand-evil-tales-german-resistance-wwii/8/

    EXCERPT “Between February 27 and March 6, 1943, a group of non-Jewish Germans protested outside of the Jewish community building at Rosenstrasse 2-4 in Berlin. At the center, 2,000 Jews had been imprisoned, comprised mostly of the Jewish husbands of non-Jewish women and the male children that came from the mixed marriages.

    Women and children, even as guns were held to their heads, refused to leave or back down. The SS were ordered not to shoot because the protests were not viewed by Joseph Goebbels as political, but rather as women desperate to keep their families together. On March 5, men in SS trucks threatened the crowd with automatic weapons but still they remained. On March 6, all of the people imprisoned at Rosenstrasse were ordered to be released by Goebbels, finally ending the protests and going down in history as one of the most substantial acts of resistance in Germany against the Nazis.” CONTINUED


    (4). "Adolf Hitler’s Armed Forces: A Triumph for Diversity?"
    https://www.inconvenienthistory.com/1/3/3102

    EXCERPTS " I ask those historians who still believe that Hitler and the Nazis were “white supremacists”: how do you account for the incredible degree of non-German and ethnic minority (i.e., 150,000 Jews and Jewish Mischlinge) collaboration during World War II? Again, some two million non-Germans helped the Nazis.

    The important thing to realize is that had the Nazis been as racist as most historians have argued, then they could not possibly have garnered the immeasurable level of support that they did. Even after Stalingrad; Spaniards, Slavs, Franks, and tens of- thousands of other non-Germans continued to fight for the Nazis on a volunteer basis. Frenchmen and Arab volunteers gave their lives in the final fight for the capital of Berlin in 1945. Hitler continued to allow thousands of Jewish men to serve, and many did so with incredible tenacity and valor. One has to call into question whether all of these Jewish men and other non-Germans were really as opposed to the Nazi regime as they have claimed after the fact. Their tenacity and determination suggests otherwise in many cases. The Jewish soldiers Bernhard Rogge, Helmuth Wilberg, Erhard Milch, and Ernst Prager come to mind.

    The Nazis never racially segregated their troops. Blacks, Slavs, Asians, and Arabs fought shoulder-to-shoulder with Germans." CONTINUED
     
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    Its disgusting, but educational.

    Interesting how posting Hitler's vile hate for the Jews brings such interesting people out of the woodwork.
     
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    Wrong.

    Non-Germans could not serve in the German military. They only served in foreign Waffen SS Units.
     
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    It appears that the posting of Hitler's vile hatred for the Jews in Mein Kampf, triggers a lot of emotions.

    People have posted that the mass-murder of the Jews did not happen.

    People have posted that the Jews deserved to be hated, reviled, and deported en masse.

    People have posted that acknowledging Hitler's vile hatred for the Jews is an an act of anti-German hatred.

    People have accused the Jews of Germany of being recent migrants who destroyed Germany and deserved everything they got.

    Truly fascinating what happens when Hitler's evil hatred, in his own published words, is shown to the world.
     
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    Those that claim the Holocaust didn’t happen or are downplaying the number of Jewish people that were murdered due to Hitler’s policies are ignoring masses amounts of evidence. They choose to believe a few non-historians who are spreading lies due to being antisemitic.

    It makes no sense to try to claim there is no proof — there are thousands of verbal descriptions from Jews and non-Jews of the atrocities committed, there are films that captured Hitler spewing his hate and of the death camps and so on, there are thousands of photographs, and so forth. It is beyond belief that one can state this amounts to no proof and the perversion of history by a few nazi-loving antisemites is their evidence. Maybe living under a rock makes you stupid.

    Hatred is an intense negative emotional response towards certain people, things or ideas, usually related to opposition or revulsion toward something. How can one say that Hitler didn’t hate Jews. To claim that one is either a total moron, an antisemite or both. Rounding people up, tattooing them with a number, sending them to a ‘camp’ to either die or be worked to death does not amount to liking people. Starving people to death is not liking people. Stripping people of their humanity, taking all their possessions, putting them in cattle cars one on top of each other is not liking people. It’s all down to irrational hatred. To deny Hitler hated Jews is denying reality. He did not like Jewish people, he loathed them. That is hatred and all his behaviour proves he hated Jews.

    Hitler didn’t just hate Jewish people. More than three million non-Jewish Poles died during the war from starvation, disease, exhaustion or in Nazi death camps. More than six million Jews died either in the death camps, or from being worked to death, or from disease due to being locked up in either the camps or various ghettoes, being shot, and due to various other atrocities. This can’t be denied and it’s due to Hitler.

    Before World War II, about 10 percent of Poland's population of 35 million were Jews. It was Europe's largest concentration of Jews. Now there are a few thousand and their average age is 70. This is directly due to Hitler’s hatred of Jewish people.

    Some of the antisemitic garbage posted on this thread is absolutely sickening.
     
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    well the Jews are claiming that Hitler sacrificed them to G-D as a fully burnt offering, thats what a Holocaust is.

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    The Altar of Incense, Altar of Burnt-Offering, and Laver from the biblical Tabernacle; illustration from the 1890 Holman Bible
     
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    forensics proved no gassing took place.
     
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    yes there is, and not so much as one valid piece of material evidence.
    people have tried to prove the holocaust is true since the war and its not been accomplished yet, all we get is the giant void of imagination.
     
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    Let's see your source. Different sources say different things. Here's a source that says something different.

    http://vho.org/GB/Books/thottc/5.html
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    The 1939 study of Arthur Ruppin, Professor of Jewish Sociology at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, gave 16,717,000 Jews in the world in 1938. Because Ruppin (who passed away in 1943) was considered the fore-most expert on such matters, on account of many writings on the subject over a period of many years, the estimates of other pre-war sources tend to agree with him. Thus the American Jewish Committee estimate for 1933, which appears in the 1940 World Almanac, was 15,315,359. The World Almanac figure for 1945 is 15,192,089 (page 367); no source is given but the figure is apparently based on some sort of religious census. The 1946 World Almanac revised this to 15,753,638, a figure which was retained in the editions of 1947 (page 74, 1948 (page 572) and 1949 (page 289). The 1948 World Almanac (page 249) also gives the American Jewish Committee estimate for 1938 (sic), 15,688,259 while the 1949 World Almanac (page 204) reports new figures from the American Jewish Committee which were developed in 1947-1948: 16,643,120 in 1939 and 11,266,600 in 1947.
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    Documents are second-hand info. Second-hand info can't be used as proof as the writer might have been lying.
     
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