Horrible killing

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Just a horrible story. The woman was 31 weeks pregnant and killed by a couple that has now been arrested.

    Note the difference in coverage by one source?

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    Why is that? Do you think if the mother had survived and was still alive and the Today Show reporter asked something like "how does it feel to lose your fetus in such a horrible manner and what should happen to the killers of your fetus" that the mother might look at her strangely and correct her that it was her BABY that was killed?
     
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    Great point!
    the abortion supporters routinely say “ it isn’t a baby, it us a clump of cells” but even they themselves call the child in utero a baby when they speak to a family member or friend who is pregnant.

    When you see shows about Scott Peterson, do they refer to fetus Connor or Baby Connor? They seem indignant about the killing of that baby but are just fine with millions of other killings!


     
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  3. Bluesguy

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    Yes the pro-abortion side will avoid this thread like the plague. No matter how many cites I post from medical and government and commericial sites they still deny the fact that it is a BABY that is killed in an abortion, heck they don't want to admit that anything is KILLED at all in an abortion.
     
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    Too many make this a binary issue. An unborn seconds before birth is not in any ethically important way different from a baby seconds after birth. They are the same by any ethical measure.

    AND a freshly fertilized human egg cell is drastically different from both of the above.

    I think you need serious dogma and indoctrination to not see both of the above are true.
     
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  5. FoxHastings

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    :) very willing as usual to say that a fetus is KILLED in an abortion...

    NO one has said anything different ...NO ONE has denied that a fetus is killed in an abortion..

    IF anyone denied anything was killed in an abortion they wouldn't call it an abortion....stop the ranting and think....
     
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    Well of course, it's a true statement as true as saying a baby is killed in an abortion, do you still deny a baby is killed in an abortion?
     
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    Well that just about to be born baby is drastically different from a 60 year old adult all are just stages in the life of the human being all humans in existence have ever gone through. The life begins at conception where our self evident right to that life begins. That's science not dogma or indoctrination.
     
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    I don't have any compassion for a freshly fertilized egg cell. And I don't understand why anyone would absent religious belief.

    Science is that it has human DNA and potential to develop into a being like you and I. But right now it's not. It's like saying a seed is a tree.
     
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    SHOW PROOF THAT ANYONE DENIED "ANYTHING" IS KILLED IN AN ABORTION


    YOU CAN'T....but you keep saying it anyway ......how credible is that? Not credible at all
     
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    No, that's religion.

    LOL, why do you back science when you constantly deny it by calling a fetus a baby?

    Science calls it a fetus.
     
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    on the contrary I believe it takes serious brainwashing to discard the scientifically backed fact that a human being’s life begins at conception.
    The simple minded argument that “ it don’t look like no baby to me” is just that, simple minded.

    He or she is NOT drastically different, he or she merely looks drastically different.
     
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    No that is the common language even in medical science and the governments own health websites as I have cited. It's not either or they are one in the same. Scroll back.
     
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    Science is that once an ovum/egg is fertilized it is no longer an ovum/egg but a new human being as complete a human being at that stage of it's human life as every human who has ever existed. Humans do not produce seeds. That being said an acorn is an oak plant in the seed stage of it's life.
     
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    Science calls a human teenager an adolescent. Does that mean a human adolescent or teenager is not a human being?
     
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    SHOW PROOF THAT ANYONE DENIED "ANYTHING" IS KILLED IN AN ABORTION


    YOU CAN'T....but you keep saying it anyway ......how credible is that? Not credible at all.


    .NO ONE has denied that a fetus is killed in an abortion..

    IF anyone denied anything was killed in an abortion they wouldn't call it an abortion....stop the ranting and think....DUH!!!

    Something that's not alive cannot be killed...WHY TF does someone have to explain that to you???



    SHOW PROOF THAT ANYONE DENIED "ANYTHING" IS KILLED IN AN ABORTION


    YOU CAN'T....but you keep saying it anyway ......how credible is that? Not credible at all.



     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No, that's religion.

    LOL, why do you back science when you constantly deny it by calling a fetus a baby?

    Science calls it a fetus.



    OMGAWD! WHY would you think that???

    WHY TF would you think calling a teenager anything would mean it isn't a human being ??! WTF!


    I see you once again have thrown logic out the window...
     
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    It's not an oak tree
     
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    Well Bubba, your camp claims a fetus/zygote/embryo is not a human being when it, like an adolescent, is just a human being at that described stage of life!!!!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No, that's religion.

    LOL, why do you back science when you constantly deny it by calling a fetus a baby?

    Science calls it a fetus.




    OMGAWD! WHY would you think that???


    AS USUAL UNANSWERED :
    WHY TF would you think calling a teenager anything would mean it isn't a human being ??! WTF!



    I see you once again have thrown logic out the window...



    A fetus ( GLAD TO SEE YOU FINALLY KNOW WHAT TO CALL IT!) is NOT A human being as in legfal person.

    It is HUMAN ( that's an adjective) but NOT A human ( NOUN) being as in legal person.

    I know you can't accept all those facts and logic ...too bad...

    Just keep dodging those "inconvenient questions....as I know you will :)
     
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    It's that stage an Quercus plants life.
     
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    So you agree a human being is killed in an abortion?
     
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    It is a human being as in science. The law does not define what is or is not a human being.
     
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    Exactly. The right pretends that all abortions happen in week 40, during delivery.
     
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    No... It is drastically different. It has no brain, no heart, nothing much more than mere DNA.

    Everything that makes me feel compassion for other people is lacking here in a freshly fertilized egg cell. But it is all present in a baby seconds before birth.
     
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    nobody cares what makes YOU feel compassion! Nothing is less relevant than that!

    A human being should never be allowed to be killed based on the whim of one person! That is it!
    All of the rest of this is just babble.
     

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