House Intelligence memo released: What it says

If you sign the application - which surely includes "best of my knowledge to be true and accurate" language - knowing the information presented with the application is at least likely to be tainted, you have committed perjury.

Who signed those applications?

 

Yeah, why would they do that over a bogus and inaccurate memo? Hmmmm

 

Isn't that what this memo just did? Lol

 

Mueller investigation just lost the war of public opinion. No matter what happens now it will forever be branded a witch hunt and all anyone will remember is the phony dossier that was used to launch it

 

Much much much worse... Watergate involved campaign staffers trying to obtain dirt on the other campaign.

This involves foreign actors used by one campaign, with the involvement and help of the FBI and DOJ, to influence a US election and then to try to harm a duly elected president.

 

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* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.

 

It's what prompted the initial investigation.
What do you think George is telling mueller?

 

the memo is more like a opinion piece from alex jones.

 

Made sense to me. And would make sense to those who are actually connected to the reality they live in. I just heard Risen, a journalist, who used to be with the NYT, a pulitzer prize winner, say it is only the lower gov't employees who get charged with crimes. Never those at the top. A lower CIA employee is in prison, for leaking to risen info he exposed. The boys at the top that leak, nothing ever happens to them. Same with the FBI, as it will be seen. The same Risen that the NYT held back his journalism in regards to the info used to invade Iraq. And only published those journalists who backed up the Bush Admin. Being a real journalist, you probably never heard of him? He now writes for The Intercept. An outlet staffed by lefties, who tell your tribe very inconvenient things. Not on your news list, in other words. But on mine. MSNBC is calling you.

 

I read it. That is what it says.

That, in itself, is such an obvious example of cherry picking that the rest is hardly worth paying attention to!!!!!

https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkin...-a-russian-spy?utm_term=.xodDokPMB#.ayPgo1q29

 

We know what the persons who made the application said, it was the KEY to getting the warrant even though they knew it was not credible. Remember neither the FBI or the NSC could testify to that veracity, they all said they could not confirm what it stated yet it was used to obtain a FISA warrant.

You tell me should Wray be fired?

 

Except mueller didn't work there.
Are you saying they found something in the Carter page spying that was so obvious they needed a special prosecutor?

 

Not what he said. Quote him. Zero evidence it was used to get the warrant.

 

I know who James Risen is.

 

no, didnt you read it?

Its a summary of the evidence, not the actual evidence

 

If you have something to cite then cite it. There is nothing cherry picked about the fact that they had not even confirmed the information in the dossier when they took it to a FISA court.

 

Except there isn't even any proof the dossier was used.
What in the dossier was wrong as it pertained to Page?

 

McCabe testimony that the FISA application would not have been sought but for the Steele dossier is support for the claim that the Steele Dossier was an essential part of the application.

But it does not mean that the dossier was used as evidence in the presentation to the FISA court judge, nor would it negate the other evidence presumably presented to the FISA court in an effort to obtain the warrant.

 

We could have used your organizational skills when we were getting hammered with anti Trump polls and Russia Russia Russia.

 

Then that's the bottom line of this whole memo, to me... what was the primary evidence against him and how much 'weight' was given to the Page part of the dossier... which the memo doesn't touch. I doubt FISA courts ask or expect the political affiliations of those providing application information, nor who paid for it...

If the Page part of the dossier was the PRIMARY piece of probable cause of the application, I can see there might be a problem with the warrant... especially if it was "corroborated" by a YAHOO NEWS piece... Frankly, I cannot believe the FBI would even submit an application using YAHOO NEWS as a source in any way.

I've seen that 2013 report as well, so Page was known to the FBI for many years..

 

And what will be in the application that isn't in the dossier?

 

So you are asserting McCabe is a liar.

 

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* The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.

 

Hillary's campaign commissions and purchases unsubstantiated dirt from Fusion GPS and gives it to friendlies in Obama's FBI/DOJ, friendlies in Obama's FBI/DOJ leak it to the press to give it an air of legitimacy, once 'legitimacy' is established, FISA court approval to surveil the Trump campaign (US citizens, all) is sought and granted.

****ing Banana Republic

 

The story about the meeting with the Russians went from:

1- Oh there are people called Russians and there is a Russia, who knew!
2- No we do not know any Russians, never talked to any Russians, never even saw any Russians.
3- We heard that there are Russians living on earth but we do not know any we do not even serve Russian salad dressing in the White House .

To:
4- Ok so we met with Russians but all we talked about was adopting poor little Russian orphans.
5- Ok ok ok we met with the Russians and two future criminals where there, Manafort and Flynn butvall thatvwevtalked about was dirty, dirty dirty, poopy dirt on Hillary that our Russian "friends" promised us.