How can homosexuality not be a perversion?

You seem to be unaware of what evidence is as well...

 

No dude .. you logic is flawed .. in error .. as explained in previous post .. but, likely that your failings as a student are my failings as a teacher.

OK .. so 1) "Man has become God" 2) "I didn't say man is God"

Yes - you did. 2 implies 1.

but that is an easy one .. "Life defines God" is more complex .. the first problem being that being alive is not the only defining quality of a God ... so "Life" does not define God. Life is evidence of God .. but this does not mean the ability to create life means one is a God. another logical error this is.

 

Your statement - the defacto claim "Soul doesn't Exist" - is the same as claiming God doesn't exist.. and assumed premise fallacy since you do not state how it is you arrived at this conclusion.

That aside .. your claim is demonstrably false .. as you have not defined what a soul is .. and so .. I can define it however I want - "The soul is the ability to think" -- See .. defacto proof .. the soul exists.

and you can't now cry .. "Thats not how I define the soul" .. because you never defined the soul prior to your claim .. thus your claim is completely meaningless ..

So .. Step 1) Define what a Soul is ..or better .. what definition of Soul are you using .. as there are many.

Step 2) explain how this soul you have defined as X .. does not exist

Last .. the math equation I gave you was not for the Soul ? The math equation was for "existence" proving that existence is eternal.

You say "but you said existence is the soul" .. correct .. but that does not mean existence is the soul .. and if you say its not .. then give a different definition

 

Correct .. - and if you read carefully .. I ask the reader to answer a question .. the correct answer of which will prove the existence of a God as per my definition.

but for now .. interested in your proof

 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/02/980227055013.htm

 

First will you please stop referring to ne as dude. I am not nor never have been and will never be a dude.

Do not call me dude. I never have been or never will be one.
I what you are doing is defining God as and when you need a description. I don't play that game because no one knows what God is.
Same with your word "soul". You say there are many definitions, I say it doesn't exist.
AFAIAC there is no point discussing something that either doesn't exist or has many definitions.
Waste of time.

 

Which once again leads us to your insistence that you know what God is.
Yet you have no proof of what it is and are happy enough to create facets of what he is to explain things you have no concrete evidence of.
How convenient.

 

Blathering fallacy and denial. Claiming that something you haven't defined - does not exist is abject nonsense on steroids. Circular moronicity.. a violation of logic and rational thought.

In order for the claim "X doesn't exist" to be shown to be true . one first has to have defined what X is .. and you have not..

 

Sorry. For all your stammering, no one can describe or define something that doesn't exist.
Logic 101.

 

Indeed one is the other. You missed the implication.
If you defined God as life, and mankind can create life, then MY point is that man is God.
Which is what I have been saying.
Whatever else God is, is unknown and in fact it is quite presumptuous of you to know what God is. I note you change or add characteristics as necessary.
But all this is pointless since God doesn't exist, just ad the soul doesn't exist. So no one can define what an imaginary idea is. It can be anything you want it to be.

 

you are on a circular fallacy treadmill "the soul doesn't exist because the soul doesn't exist" - is your argument - and as such is fallacious nonsense - "Logic 101" . so you can quit pretending to understand logic. .

I defined what the soul is .. and proved that it exists ... you are the one stammering .. wallowing in circular fallacy .. having no ability to respond to the "Proof" provided .. and so run around crying "it doesn't exist" "it doesn't exist" - then accusing the other of your "Stammering" .
When someone asks you "What doesn't exist" .. you reply "I Don't know" ... So you don't know what doesn't exist .. and finally you are correct .. albeit mistakenly - having refuted your own claim - in a haze of circular delusion.

 

You the one that keeps missing it mate.. I did not define God as "Life" so your point is mute .. a made up nonsense construct .. the equivalent of talking to yourself .. "If you defined God as a Cat then God would be a Cat" .. fallacious circular nonsense.


Further ... you continue to state "I don't know what doesn't exist" - and have yet to figure out why this is fallacious circular nonsense .. missing the fact that your statement refutes your premise that God doesn't exist and that the Soul does not exist.

 

You proved nothing.
You declared that it exists.
But it only exists in your own imagination.
I cant describe something that isn't there.
And you can stop trying to complicated the fact. It is really quite simple.it isn't a circularcargument. There isn't an argument at all.
And ditto God. You cant describe something that doesn't exist and you CERTAINLY say you know what it is or is not. Because it isn't there except in your own imagination.

 

Wrong on that too.

 

Waste of time and your temper.
BTW the word is "moot". Meaning carries no weight, is pointless.
Just like your constant efforts to discuss and describe something that does not exist.course it is really helpful to add or subtract bits of your interpretation of your own illusion. You can make it whatever you want.
Logic 101. Unless you are discussing a shared illusion, you cannot describe its character at any level with any hope of being convincing.you are just recounting dreams.
AFAIAC God and the soul are your imaginings. Something someone told you about and you believe it.
I don't. So you go ahead and imagine whatever you like. It has absolutely nothing to do with me. Other than consider you delusional.

 

What is "IT" what have I declared exists ? The only one imagining things is you .. followed by the same circular nonsense that you can't seem to figure out .. and repetition of naked claim "God doesn't exist" .. as if repetition of claim constituted proof of claim.

What is "IT" that I have declared exists. What on earth are you talking about if other than something you have imagined?

 

another post of raging nonsense.. not related to anything discussed .. or addressing any of your logical errors pointed out - followed by you making up imaginary positions and attributing them to others .. . followed by you claiming I am delusional

Lovely .. so what is this imaginary "IT" you claim I have declared exists ? and we will see who is the delusional one.

 

God. And/or the soul
ISTM either you can't follow a simple idea or you ate trying to digress and create what you hope is confusion. Upon which you retort by using misplaced accusations of circular argument.
There is no circle in the statement "God and the soul do not exist. Therefore one cannot define or describe them". Because all we end up doing is describing your imaginary fantasy.
Now you are free to believe in the tooth fairy because where else do those baby teeth go when they drop out because of scientific biology
But don't start telling me what she is thinking, how she was originated and how she controls the universe.
Your God and the "gotcha" idea of the soul created by religious power mongers DO NOT EXIST.
Therefore they cannot be described.
Or analysed. Or explained. Or said to be here or there or how much they influence human development or whether like water gods or sun gods or after gods they appreciate your little offering of a wafer and wine once a week so they will protect you from whatever and assure you bounty.
THEY DO NOT EXIST.
Therefore they have no Being to describe, justify or explain.
Now if you want to believe the myth that keeps you in line, fine. You can believe the face on the Turing Shroud is rhat of Jesus even 5jpugh non
one knows what he looked like. You can believe there is some force other than chemically inevitable result in Life on Earth. And you can sit around like some circle of mystics defining what God and the soul are.
But don't expect me to waste my time interpreting what you imagine.
Or even trying to prove that they do not exist when you can't prove rhey do.
And if that repeated explanation is still unclear to you, and you try once again to use illogical or pretended ignorance of the subject as a weapon, stuff it.
The logic is clear. If it doesn't exist you cannot describe it.
You can only imagine it.
And that is my final word.

 

I make up no imaginary positions. That is your forte.
My post was absolutely within the context of the discussion.
What angers you is that so far the discussion has been balanced on the possible existence of your definition of God and the soul.
I reject their existence so you have no way of explaining them.
It really is as simple as that.

 

This is not an "and/or" question... you claimed I declared "IT" exists. Now you stammer "Maybe it was this .. maybe it was that"

You then state.

I never said was a circle in that statement so why are you making things up and pretending otherwise ? followed by claiming you make up no imaginary positions.

Yes you have made up imaginary positions - and" it really is as simple as that "
1) I never declared God exists
2) I never claimed the statement "God and soul do not exist" was circular.

and last .. your claim that the Soul does not exist has been refuted "Existence is real" or are you goint to try to claim that existence is not real .. and that you do not actually exist ?

Your desperate attempt to claim otherwise was the circular nonsense .. go review previous post for an explanation of why.

 

Look.
This conversation has been about the existence and nature of God. Someone, probably you, mentioned the soul.
So don't come whining to me asking what I am referring to.
It was also you who accused me of presenting a circular argument...at least twice.
I told you it can't be a circular argument because what you are discussing does not exist. AFAIAC that is the start and finish of it. I cant make an argument out of something that does not exist, circular or otherwise.
This is now the third time I have said this.
You are now equating the soul with existence. THAT IS YOUR OPINION.
AFAIAC existence can be without a soul like plants. Rocks . Water. Other planets, comets, gluons and muons, They all exist. Do they have a soul?
I cannot discuss this with someone who works from his imaginary world.
It is like discussing the nature of a delusion.
And I am out.

 

I have a question for you.

Did black holes exist in 1100 AD?

To follow up, if someone had theorized in 1100 AD that black holes exist would he be right or wrong?

 

Actually… If you could create life out of nothing.. even a plant. Just whip together some gasses, some water, some electricity and boom you have life… that would totally discredit all theory on all religion. Yes, if you could do that you would be what most religion refers to as divine.

 

Not unless there was someone who could read a thousand years into his future.

 

So black holes didn’t exist in 1100 AD?