How is this allowed at a publicly funded School?

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  1. ToughTalk

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    They know what the hell the issue is. They are just trolling at this point.
     
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    Then you're saying white students can attend. We agree.
    If it's a ceremony of the graduates and some or 1 is white, of course they are being celebrated. Sheesh.
     
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    Hate crimes against minorities are caused by segregated graduation ceremonies? Wow. You've got quite an imagination.

    Hate crimes in major U.S. cities rose moderately during the first half of 2022 after posting double-digit percentage increases over the past two years, according to police data compiled by the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism.

    The data collected from 15 major city police departments show an average increase of about 5 percent in bias-motivated incidents so far this year, according to a new report by the extremism research center at California State University at San Bernardino. The 15 cities have a combined population of 25.5 million people.

    By comparison, a larger sample of data from 52 major cities compiled by the center showed hate crimes in the United States surged by nearly 30 percent in 2021, according to the report.

    A hate crime is defined by the FBI as a “criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity."

    https://www.voanews.com/a/us-hate-crimes-rise-during-first-half-of-2022-/6713791.html
     
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    Not sure why this is a big deal. The school is not hosting a separate graduation. The school is hosting a graduation for everyone. This group is hosting a separate graduation event that has no purpose other than to be a celebration. Anyone can host their own graduation event in addition to the official one. You can do it in your home if you want and only invite people you like. It has no bearing on anything.
     
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    How many black people do you think will show up to the White Graduation Ceremony?
     
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    The conversation has evolved to this year's celebration that exclusively celebrates black graduates.
    The link has already been posted in the thread, but here we go again.
    UC Berkeley's Black Graduation: Celebrating community, culture, and achievement | Letters & Science

     
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    Because in reality, the university is condoning state funded segregation when they allow a graduation that celebrates black students only. Seems highly unlikely that a ceremony celebrating white students only wouldn't raise eyebrows.
     
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    Believe what you need to believe. You're still wrong.
     
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    So no group should have a special recognition party because one group doesn't have a celebration? When the football team has an end of year recognition party, should the chess club get mad because they didn't have one? The university is condoning people that want to celebrate their achievements. Any group is free to do so.
     
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    No. Again the the ceremony is only going to celebrate black students who are graduating white students can be there but they are not to be celebrated they will not get on stage they will not get an applause they do not get to speak do you understand or do I have to use sock puppets
     
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    This is about dividing based on race, not on skills.
     
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    It's not dividing anything. The university has a graduation for everyone. The African American Studies Dept is having their own party in addition to that. No one there has skills because it's a useless degree, much like women's studies or a degree in English. By the way, if the English Dept wants to have a party to celebrate their students graduating, they are free to do so and it doesn't (or shouldn't) piss off the Spanish department.
     
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    You may believe the ceremony for Black grads only does not divide. You're wrong though. It divides and segregates non-black graduates from celebrating with them based on their skin color. Segregation is bad because it's divisive. Blacks fought long and hard to be integrated with all people. They fought hard to be judged on the content of the character and not by the color of their skin. Now they are choosing to be segregated based on race, skin color. It's their choice to make, but to many, the optics come across as willfully divisive. If there was a ceremony for white grads only, IMO, many, including blacks, would be the first to shout RACISM.
     
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    I did not say that it does not divide. It's terribly divisive just as all the other "for blacks only" stuff does. Black chamber of commerce, NAACP, Black Caucus, Black schools, etc. Blacks more than anyone want to be separate but equal, but only when they choose.

    All I'm saying is that they are free to have a party if they want one, just like everyone else. The school doesn't really have anything to do with it.
     
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    You get props for at least acknowledging the reality of this event. Lol

    Segregated events based on race fosters an "us" vs "them" mentality. Your football example doesn't come close to be a valid comparison.
     
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    I never said they weren't free to want or have one. In fact, I wrote, "Now they are choosing to be segregated based on race, skin color. It's their choice to make, but to many, the optics come across as willfully divisive." You're wrong that the school doesn't really have anything to do with it. Everything that happens at a state funded public University goes by them first. Their donations come from the state and are funded by taxpayers. Taxpayers who give tax revenue to public universities and colleges have a right to oppose ceremonies that promote segregation.
     
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    That is the latest angle the forum race baiters offer, but the letter from the university said nothing of the sort. But heck, feel free to believe anything you want.

    The name of the event was black graduation, but that doesn't mean only black people were celebrated.
     
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    Colleges are full of groups that promote segregation in some form or another. The whole Greek system is based on segregating students based on criteria of some kind or another. African American Studies promotes segregation based on race just as women's studies segregates based on gender. It's a free country. While I don't think that we should have groups that promote segregation, I will not stoop to their level and bitch about what someone else gets that I don't. It's just not worth the time
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    If I didn't I wouldn't be posting in this thread.
     
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    From the website's own description of the event.
    https://ls.berkeley.edu/news/uc-ber...celebrating-community-culture-and-achievement

    "Black Grad, as it is affectionately called, honors and celebrates Black-, African-, and African American-identifying students upon completion of their undergraduate, master’s, Ph.D., J.D., and professional degree programs from departments all over campus."

    Sorry. You are just wrong.

    I'll take the word of the actual school whom is proud of declaring this a "black grad's only celebration" over your dipshit opinion which is backed by nothing but your opinion.

    Berekley is proud of this. LOL.
     
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    Okay.
     
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    Segregation based on gender offers a safe space for women to study and relax without being hounded on by men. That's fine. (although progressives have gone done ****ed that up by allowing trans men in sororities.) Segregation based on race fosters an "us" vs "them" mentality which is not fine.
     
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    Ironically, I doubt they would feel proud if there were a celebration that only celebrated white graduates. In fact, I'm betting they'd cave to the complaints of the outraged PC peanut choir who would cry discrimination.
     
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    I find it uncanny how those who have gone on and on about the need for equality are now proudly on the side of segregationists.
     
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