How Many Guns Do You Own?

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How Many Guns Do You Own?

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  1. 1

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    12.5%
  2. 1-5

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. 5-10

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    21.9%
  4. 10-15

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    18.8%
  5. 15-20

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    6.3%
  6. 20+

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    9.4%
  1. vman12

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    Right.

    If someone kills you in the UK, then you can use deadly force.
     
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    We have an international section you can post in.
     
  3. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does it matter if they are antiques?

    It's not unusual for collectors to have hundreds of old bolt action and semi auto rifles and pistols from different countries, factories and years.

    Thanks,
     
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    I own an antique that I forgot to include on my original list. I acquired it from my dad after he passed, it's the gun he killed a ton of deer & elk with. Get ready to clutch your pearls, libs - my dad hunted with a military assault rifle: a 30-40 Krag-Jørgensen.

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    I'm not listing my weapons. I'm sure Biden has an army of folks looking at such things and making lists for "future reference".
     
  6. Grau

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    That's a nice looking "assault rifle" (actually carbine).

    If I remember correctly the Krag-Jorgensen was used by US Troops in the Spanish - American war and in the Philippines. It replaced the 45-70 Trapdoor Springfield and was replaced by the 30-06 Springfield.

    I found the following information that provides far more information about your carbine:


    "The Krag-Jorgensen: America's First Bolt-Action Service Rifle"
    https://www.americanrifleman.org/co...en-america-s-first-bolt-action-service-rifle/

    I've got 6 old, Russian and Chinese made bolt action, Mosin Nagant rifles that range in age from 1923 to the 1950s. My favorite bolt action rifle is, of course, a Mod.98k 8X57 cal. Mauser.

    If you're interested, the ATF will issue you a C&R License ( C&R = Curio and Relic) that allows you to buy older firearms from the WW 2, WW 1 era etc through the mail.
    The C&R license is about $30.- and is good for 5 years.

    Let me know if you'd like to know anything more about C&R Licenses.
     
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    My guns are all NATO or LEO calibers. As long as there are cops, 40S&W ammo should be available. As long as there are Soldiers, 7.62 NATO, 5.56, 12 ga and such should be around. Other calibers may dry up.
     
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    I think that 9X19 Luger and .45 ACP ammunition should remain available but you're right, I also stick to the popular calibers. I was never interested in firearms that fired odd ball calibers like the .45 GAP, .327 Magnum etc.

    I've got three older Tokarev pistols that fire a 7.62X25mm round which is quite impressive. The older, surplus ammunition is more powerful than the more recently manufactured ammunition but the surplus ammunition is also corrosive and requires special cleaning.

    I mentioned C&R Licenses (C&R = Curio and Relic) in a previous Post.

    Are you familiar with them?

    Not only can you buy a wide variety of older firearms through the mail but some places give discounts on ammunition to C&R License holders.
    Let me know if you want to know more about C&R Licenses.
     
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    I've never really looked into C&R but always had a nagging desire to do so. I've never identified a C&R firearm I wanted but I bet there are some out there.

    As a Private in Basic and later as a Cadet I learned to shoot with an M16, an M14 and and M1911... later I bought civilian variants. In Iraq I saw Mossberg 500's... so I have Mossberg shotguns. When the 5.7 round was type classified standard for NATO... I bought a Kel Tec P50. When I saw cops using S&W 40 rounds... I bought pistols using that caliber. I bought 9mm pistols hen the Army went that way. My M1911 is a West Point Class Commemorative. I would never have bought it otherwise. I carried a 45 on active duty. We joked that its Max Effective Range was as far as you could throw it.

    Yes... the info you offer about C&R would be very welcome.

    Maybe its time I looked at other options. Being a relic myself, I find the idea interesting.
     
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    Yes, as a Scratch n' Dent old paratrooper, the irony of adding "Curio" and "Relic" to my CV was not lost on me either.

    All you have to do is call your regional BATF office and ask them to send you an application for a Curio and Relic license.
    I think that the fee is about $30.- and the license is good for 5 years.

    I had a C&R license for about 10 years but let it expire because I ran out of gun safes, closets, gun cabinets and wall space.

    There are a surprising number of semi auto rifles and pistols that you can buy directly and have shipped to your door. That, alone, is enough to toss a gun banner into shock.

    The BATF's criteria for determining what is a C&R or not is a little erratic but quite permissive. For example, you can buy a WW 2 1911 .45acp but not a newer Model# 1911A in .45acp.

    I couldn't resist some of the old, functioning but rough bolt action "Wall Hangers" for $59- just because of the history behind them.

    Anyway, if you do get a C&R license and happen to be married, your wife its not going to let you store your "greasy, old, guns" in her clothes closet.
    Trust me on this.

    Good luck,
     
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    My wife thinks guns can be "cute". The first time I went to a gun show, in San Diego, we had established a budget i could spend. She called me as I entered and said "double it". She's a keeper.
     
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    Those are rookie numbers.
     
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    How many guns can one person use at a time? I would say two at the most since we only have two hands. Anything more than that is a lot. Of course, this is just my opinion.
     
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    If they are antiques, they'd just be for show, not to shoot. Right? Many years ago I had my Dad's old 22 rifle. (I don't have it anymore) It was just a keepsake; it wasn't for protection.
     
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    It looks like we're both lucky because my very patient wife never said anything about a gun budget and it was my idea to reduce my collection responsibly.

    I've firearms stolen before and amazingly enough, got all 8 of them back except for a very nice little flintlock derringer with the original flint and one of the first Bergman semi auto pistols made in the late 1800s.

    Even though most all the guns I have are locked up except for the bolt action "Wall Hangers", I don't want them to fall into the wrong hands.

    Congratulations on your most important "keeper".
     
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    When discussing firearms, the term "antique" can be quite vague.

    For example, there are plenty of semi automatic pistols and rifles that are 100 years old but still function flawlessly. They are still considered antiques even though they will fire modern ammunition.

    Even an old, antique flintlock might be in firing condition so to answer your question, there are lots of old black powder and more recent firearms that are considered antiques but are also capable of firing.

    I hope that I haven't made things more confusing for you.

    Thanks,
     
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    Well I was thinking more for recreation. When I've shot guns in the past, I enjoyed it, even just at a target doesn't even have to be hunting.

    Issue with using it for defense is it seems like it'd need to be ready and loaded for that, and yet my kids are pretty resourceful in getting things they shouldn't have (8, 5 and 1 year olds). I think if I had a loaded gun in the house, it would be more likely that one of my kids would have an accident with it than it would be used to shoot an intruder who otherwise would have caused similar harm to us.

    Elsewhere I've lived, I've had a few burglaries. They wanted to steal stuff, not be seen. One of them was a sort of accidental home invasion as the crazy idiot took a half a bottle of my blood pressure medication thinking it was something else, and so she was passed out on the bed when we came back from our walk. The police station was like 100 feet away and it was shift change. Lots of cops came and got her.
     
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    After taking a half of a bottle of B/P medicine, I hope that your sleepy home invader survived the overdose so that she could serve an appropriate sentence.
    Thanks for that story.

    You clearly recognize the resourceful nature of your 3 children and are the best qualified to assess your dilemma . You didn't mention the gender of the children but if they are boys and anything like me and my two younger brothers, you've got your hands full.
    My brothers and I not only found the revolvers that my poor dad tried to hide but took them to the basement for some target shooting, reloaded them and put them back in the hiding place. We almost got away with it except for the bullet marks in the basement wall.
    The only reason no one got hurt was because I had already been taught gun safety by the time I was 8.

    That may be a third option even if you don't keep a gun at your home.
    One of your children is very likely to come across a gun at a friend's house so that the sooner they're taught not to touch or handle a gun, the better.
    Whatever you decide to do, I wish you good luck.
     
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    Yeah I get that people who have kids are hesitant.

    That said, the reality is that kids who die in accidental shootings (about 500) are the same as the number of people who are walking along, slip, fall, and die (falls from same level).

    That of course includes the least responsible parents in the country that probably put rat poison out on a counter somewhere.

    We can keep kids away from guns. That's something we have control over. We don't have control over someone that tries to hurt our families.

    There are any number of small, individual firearm safes that are easy to secure, that are also easy to anchor in somewhere that would make it difficult to find/steal (some look like floor or wall register vents).

    One thing I did when my kids were small was I bought a gun with a magazine safety.

    If the magazine wasn't in the gun, the gun could not fire. The magazine was always in my pocket, so unless my small children mugged me, I didn't have any worries.

    Guns are like fire extinguishers. You'll probably never need one, but if you do and don't have it, you'd never forgive yourself.
     
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    and it continues.

    How many tools do you have? A Lot? Do you use a hammer and a small screwdriver for all your home repair tasks? Or, do you have different tools for different tasks? Do you even do your own home repairs?

    your opinion? Yes. You think it should be taken seriously? Why?
     
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    No such thing as a magazine safety. What you describe is not one. Learn a bit, knowledge is your best safety.
     
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    There are a number of firearms with a magazine disconnect safety.

    Not sure what your point is.
     
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    I inks you don’t.
     
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    My 9x18 Makarov is the 1st pistol I ever bought. Picked it up in the mid 90s after the wall came down, when the Russkies were hard up for cash & flooded the market with them. $110, came with an extra magazine, leather military holster & cleaning rod. Terrific little gun (basically a PPK clone) that currently resides in my kitchen. 9x18 still seems to be available, but has certainly gotten pricey.
     

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