How to ban guns without firing a single shot...

Then why don't you explain to us what the definition of the word ban means?

 

Easily.

LINK: Congress Blocks Rule Barring Mentally Impaired From Purchasing Guns (nbcnews.com)

 

These aren't specific proposals?

???

Here, would you like another one of where I have expounded on those proposals?

I have suggested these things for a long time, have plenty of posts about them. Please do not turn into a Golem and pretend that such has never been proposed.

And while Republicans have not proposed much of these, they have at least pointed out that we need to do better in our mental health systems.

 

There is, when they have been determined, in a court of law, that they are so mentally disturbed that they are a danger to themselves or others. There are lots of people out there with mental problems. Most of them are not a danger to themselves or others.

 

It sounded kinda funny

 

I'm not 100% sure about the statistics, but I seem to remember that most gun killings are actually carried out with guns that were legally purchased. I may be wrong, as I don't have the numbers on hand. Either way, I do agree that this is vital part of ending gun violence. However, it's not the easiest to deal with. And the best way to deal with it is to stop flooding the country with guns in the hands of the public. The illegal guns that criminals use were originally purchased legally. After which they were then stolen, or sold... often using the "gun show" loophole.

 

1. Why not?
2. That our criminal justice system is a corrupt institution is a well documented fact.
3. Tyvm

 

Or was it some accidental honesty?

 

I think the threshold should be lower, because there would be no need to apply the 'no guns' rule because in an institution, the institution won't let you have guns, and the ATF/FBI won't have to be bothered. None of the wacos who engaged in mass shootings were institutionalized, so some other criterion should be established.

But,. this goes back to my thread on repealing 2A. As long as 2A exists, applying a standard for removing guns from peoples who are sick in the head becomes a lot more difficult.

I mean, either you want to do something about mass shootings are you don't.

 

Really? Let's see your documentation.

 

I don't answer questions you know damn well what the definition is.

 

Harden the schools. That's the best answer.

 

What drove Repubs to block it is the second amendment.

that is the reason I posted a thread on repealing 2A.

The problem with their reasoning is that we find out they were wacko,,,,...................

AFTER THE KIDS ARE SHOT DEAD.

Excuse dems for wanting to do something about it.

IN essence, 2A is killing kids.

 

Well, using that logic, we can eliminate vehicular deaths by eliminating cars and trucks, we can eliminate death caused by surgical procedures by eliminating all surgeries, we can eliminate all accidental deaths by having people never do anything. Wrong approach.

You are attempting to impose this fear of everything safety culture on everybody instead of actually dealing with the root causes of problems. Having said that, a certain number of people are simply going to fall victim to all kinds of unfortunate things simply because this is the way life is for all creatures. Have you ever considered the number of micro-organisms you crush every time you walk around anywhere? It's just the way life is.

The best you can hope for is to have individuals develop themselves mentally, physically, and spiritually so that they will make the best choices possible which will benefit all people and minimize poor outcomes.

 

most guns-at one time were "legally purchased" -be it by the wholesaler, the retail dealer or the first retail buyer. And most suicides are committed with legally OWNED firearms. Most murders are committed by felons who already are banned from owning guns. Let's examine your current proposal which essentially is a demand to stop the legal sale of firearms. what are the ramifications

1) what is the impact of such a proposal upon law abiding citizens-incredibly deleterious

2) what is the impact of your proposal on people who already violate the law by possessing, acquiring or using firearms-very limited.

So applying the principle of parsimony, it appears that the motivation for such a program is to prevent honest people from having guns, not reducing criminal activity

 

wrong-Democrats pretend they want to do something about it because crying about dead kids appeals to the sheeple far more than telling the public why they really want to ban guns. Nothing the Democrats have proposed in the last 50 years has any real chance of decreasing crime and that isn't the goal anyway

 

They don't apply that threshold to put people on no fly lists

See flying is not an amendment, it's a privilege, not a right.

That was the reason for my posting the thread on repealing 2A,

Guns, like flying, should also be a privilege, and not a right.

see, most of the time we don't find out they have smouldering undetectable violence in their soul until after the kids are shot dead.

 

Do mentally ill people have rights?

 

No fly lists are unconstitutional, just like DUI checkpoints are unconstitutional.

 

How is NOT eliminating guns (which is what the paragraph you quoted says) similar to eliminating cars and trucks?

This is a perfect example of binary thinking combined with limited reading comprehension.

 

The main impact is that they can go to a store or to an event or to work.... and send their kids to school without fear that they'll be shot.

 

They want and need violence. They MUST have dead children. They CELEBRATE school shootings.

 

many leftists are comfortable sacrificing individuals for "the greater good" and disarming anyone who might oppose their collectivist agenda

 

Yes I do that's why this thread is about banning guns.

 

Just because someone is Baker acted for 3 Days doesn't mean they're going to stay there forever.

I don't automatically trust your claim that none of the mass shooters have ever been institutionalized