How to ban guns without firing a single shot...

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure there are likely some Brazilian guns, but why bother when US guns are readily available and easy to obtain? Brazil is much further away and with far fewer routes.

    The fact is that if the U.S. restricts gun manufacture, gun violence will become more expensive in Central America. Which will indirectly help us. In fact, it will get more expensive everywhere. Including the U.S.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, what is funny is that you guys thought you could play gotcha on MY comment. And it backfired. That happens often to folk who don't take my sig seriously. Hope that helps you avoid getting into a mess like this next time.

    BTW, Mexico is also NOT in South America.....
     
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    Gee I'm no cartographer, and you are the self proclaimed geography expert, but the Central American countries are closer in distance to Brazil than they are traveling the length of Mexico to the US. Especially by sea.

    You got a map with a scale? Please share.

    Also I'm not convinced that artificially raising the cost of US manufactured firearms is going to increase the price of Brazilian exports.

    How does that work?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not a geography expert. I just did my homework when I was in Junior High.

    No!! For reference, a flight from Sao Paulo (probably where guns are manufactured, given that it's Brazil's main industrial area) to Miami takes about the same as a flight from Lisbon to Miami. A flight from Miami to any Central American Capital takes around two and a half hours.

    Oh... BTW... Lisbon is in Europe.

    Also... you CANNOT drive from Brazil to Central America. And by sea... looks like a huge distance to go out to the Atlantic Ocean, all around the northern part of South America and into the Caribbean Sea. Miami is pretty much already in the Caribbean.

    All this is basic knowledge I learned in school. Just by every day looking at a world map in my classroom and which I have imprinted in my mind.
     
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    Taurus firearms are quite popular. They're cheap as **** but mostly functional. Only had 1 real blemish, a model that would go off if you sneezed at it when it was cocked and locked. They did a yeoman's job collecting the old ones and replacing the faulty part.

    https://homemadeguns.wordpress.com/

    https://defdist.org/
    https://defcad.com/
    https://ghostgunner.net/featured-products/

    Nah, I don't think that's really an issue now. You don't understand you're basically trying to outlaw a machine that is less complicated than some door knobs and can be made out of basically any material you'd use in regular construction or DIY home projects. Or children's toys.

    https://www.northwestfirearms.com/threads/2x4-ar-lower-made-from-wood.246641/
     
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    You think manufactures and distributors export firearms on airplanes?

    Bless your heart.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure what your post has to do with what we are discussing in the post you quoted. I would encourage you to start your posts by explaining the relevance of what you are about to explain.
     
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    Reality Well-Known Member

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    You said ^

    So I said ^

    And you think its not relevant.

    You wondered why people might select Brazilian guns when US guns are available. I told you: Taurus, the premiere Brazilian international arms manufacturer, are quite popular because they make cheap and effective firearms and have a decent "we ****ed this up, we fixed it now" PR record.
    People like that in a company.

    As to the rest: You speculated that a ban on the trade of arms would make arms impossible to obtain.
    I disagree, and routed you to relevant links for free 3d printed firearms in use by militaries of today, as well as several examples of improvised firearms in action.
    To include a functional AR 15 made from legos and one made of wood.
     
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    If a guy that did his geography homework in junior high says it's impossible for him to make his own firearm, then it must not be possible for anyone.

    Only Turks in caves hammering out AK-47 receivers out of a stack of broken handled shovels can build firearms from scratch.

    It's a lot simpler than geography you know.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ok. So now that we have assessed your level of education in geography, next step is to do the same in the area of the English Language. When somebody says that they are providing a fact only "for reference", what do you think that means?

    Choose the correct option:
    1- It means "as a reference point to have a general idea of distances"
    2- It means that their point is that the firearms must be carried in airplanes
    3- "Don't ask me! I dropped out before I even made it to High School"

    Choose wisely.
     
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    I'm not sure....

    But for reference, what is the definition of the word "reference" according to Golem?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No! Read again. I'm asking why people in Central America would want to buy guns from Brazil when guns from the US are so readily available. In any case it's obviously a rhetorical question. Fact is that most guns in Central America come from the U.S.
    https://www.justsecurity.org/84954/...america-heres-how-to-help-stop-the-arms-flow/
     
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    Again: people buy arms from Brazilian manufacturers, like Taurus, because they are functional, cheap, and available.
     
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    Nobody living in Central America would buy a Taurus, ! They get their guns flown in from the USA because only people that live in that third-world pile of dirt called Belize buy guns from Taurus, or so I heard.

    Taurus' guns are too cheap, and you know how strong the Salvadorean Colon is against the dollar.
     
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    Since when?
     
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    Never said it was-it's in Latin America and it's south of the US border
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another one? Since ever! You can't drive across the Darien Gap!

    And, before you respond please make sure you understand what the discussion was about.
     
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    Taurus revolvers are made on SW machinery while the Taurus copies of the Beretta are made on beretta machinery. The reputation of the Taurus is they work great after they get sent back for the first warranty repair
     
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    Columbia is making licensed copies of the Israeli battle rifle as well as copies of the HK G3. I have shot 10,000 columbian shot shells in the 10 years I shot there-both for dove shooting and an ISU skeet event. they worked well-apparently Fiocchi materials
     
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    and??
    Lots of the automatic weapons south of the border drug cartels have are military surplus that was dumped on the International Market when the soviet bloc replaced the 762x39 AKM style rifles with either Russian AK 74 or STANAG weapons for eastern bloc countries that adopted NATO armaments
     
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    If you want to know what my point is, you'll have to read the whole conversation. Hint: the rest of your point is irrelevant to the point I was making.
     
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    I generally find most of the points you try to make to be irrelevant to the reality of gun ownership in the USA, We already know that you want would ban private gun ownership in the USA if you could and your reasons for doing that is purely political.
     
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    Oh. So immigrants didn’t drive covered wagons from the Midwest to Oregon?

    LOL

    The discussion is all over the place. But seems to center around your dislike of firearms.
     
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    Some people posses skills you don’t possess. Just because YOU can’t do a thing doesn’t mean it can’t and hasn’t been done.

    Another what? You upset I’ve pointed out you are incorrect again?
     
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    Columbia is making Galils or Tavors?
    Are they any good?
     

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