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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately religion will hold back research in this field but could we leave religion out of this thread?
     
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    Yes I’m well aware of what you posted and what I posted. Here is what you posted.


    Here is my response.


    According to your source, you are incorrect and I’m correct. God did in fact make them clothes just as I said. I made no mention of chronology. Just that God did make them clothes. If you had in fact studied this subject at some point you would not have made the error you did in saying I was incorrect in my statement when your source clearly says what I claimed it says.

    If you read your source you will find that they were not removed after they made their fig leaf garments. They were removed from the garden only after God made them clothes. So your chronology that you made claims about is incorrect as well.

    I’m only correcting your errors to demonstrate we must consider all available information in our belief systems. Even if it’s a religion we may or may not care for or follow. We can’t ignore information that follows information we like better.

    Critical thinking involves examination of all available information and actually thinking about it. Denying information exists has no value.

    When we make things up or misrepresented what certain religions teach, we are in danger of ending up in a place history has many times before. It’s never good. So whether we believe in a thing or not, let’s not misrepresent it to justify our position on it. Let’s base our position on the actual evidence, just like we would if we were buying a car or deciding how to most safely live with an infectious disease.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    after they ate the apple, like I said, wow, lol

    God was very angry to see his children clothed and covering up
     
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    If clothing made him angry why did he make them clothes instead of taking the fig leaves away? Are you sure anger was ever a motivational factor?

    Was my statement correct or incorrect according to your source material?

    I hope you haven’t thrown something away that could have great value to you just because you haven’t considered all the available information and what it means. :)
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    them putting on clothes made him angry, once they had them on, the gig was up, he could no longer watch them play naked in the garden I guess

    they were naked when they ate the apple, the bible says it right there
     
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    Well that was pointless :roflol: . Just waiting now for someone else to pipe in about Jesus or Mohammed or Moses, just what you need in a science forum. Any new posters to this thread won't bother to post anything related to the OP
     
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    yep, religion and science do not mix
     
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    Of course they were naked. Nobody claimed they weren’t. The problem is your source does not even say God was angry. It certainly doesn’t say he was angry because they put clothes on.

    And you completely ignore the fact your source says God made them clothes before removing them from the garden. But when I said God made them clothes you said I was wrong.

    Why would you say I was wrong if you have read the book?

    If you are going to use a source you have to include all the information in the source. It’s unethical to pick only certain information you like.

    I encourage you to consider the question I asked of why God would clothe them if he wanted to see them naked.

    Your source you keep referring to is a great piece of literature regardless of whether or not one accepts it as inspired. Most classical literature references your source directly or indirectly. There’s a lot of good educational content in there if one actually reads it and thinks a bit about it.

    Just out of curiosity, why do you always refer to anger and punishment when discussing your source? Is it something internal to the source, or something external in your life? It makes me sad when people refer to life as a punishment in any context. That’s why I ask.
     
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    it most certainly does, he punished the snake, made childbirth painful going forward, kicked them out of the garden, he was not happy at all - my source is the bible

    anyway, I am done with this in this thread
     
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    Yes your source is the Bible. But it doesn’t say things you claim it says and it says things you claim it doesn’t say.

    That’s a problem no matter what source anyone uses.

    Anyway, thanks for the interesting discussion and I hope you give it some more thought.
     
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    you're welcome, it was a nice conversation, I just did not realize the tread it was in, have a great day :)
     
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