I am a good person and I don't need a god for that

I am a good person and I don't need a god for that
do you agree
God did not privatize morality, ethics, humanism
moreover, there are at least three books on religious goodness, and it is not clear which one to read
Bible, Koran, Gita

 

People privatised god, though, in pursuit of power and money. Truly, god was made in man's image.

 

The Bible predicts that.....
"The anger of the LORD will not turn back until he has executed and accomplished the intents of his heart. In the latter days you will understand it clearly." (Jeremiah 23:20)

I am of the belief that near death experience accounts are a major part of how the real plans of God will finally be understood in our time period.....


https://near-death.com/christian-andreason-nde/

but.. the truth of Eventual Universal Salvation does not mean that there are no temptations and tests...... and a temporary or not so temporary prison environment for souls who become SELFISH AND PREDATORY!


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Some of us don't require the threat of eternal torment or the promise of divine reward in order to be a decent human being. If the only reason a person is decent to other people is because they are afraid of eternal torment or hope for a reward, that person is a piece of sh**

 

why do you quote the Bible and not the Koran or the Gita?

 

God is quietly on your side

 

I don't trust people, but I treat them humanely

 

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It always alarmed me when I heard people say that we wouldn't be good without God.

 

Definitely agree. If anything, I would say that religions tend to distort and freeze morality in time, so that today modern people are attempting to practice outdated bronze age morals. Ultimately, I think morality is primarily about the effect one has on other thinking, feeling beings. Morality is logical, because society can do more for all of us if we can get along and trust.

The "good person" thing is a bit difficult for me. I am skeptical of selflessness. People who do good things for other people do so primarily because it makes themselves feel good to do so. So they're just fortunate that healthy things are making them feel good. Somebody who enjoys causing pain to others, but tries not to because they do care about others, is simply less fortunate in their desires. So whether somebody acts "good" or not is down to three things: Their intelligence (morality is logical), their drives (prone to altruism vs prone to sadism), and their circumstances. So to me, I feel like just saying people are good or bad is too simple. At the same time, if somebody is destructive, others do still need to be protected from them.

 

Let me tell you why you need God...

All people do both good and bad. If you can count yourself among the mere mortals this would apply to, then you might agree that we all have confronted the demon sitting on one shoulder vociferously engaged with the angel sitting at cross purposes. THIS is one of many reasons why we all need God.

If the human intellect has mastered anything, it is the artful skill to rationalize every damn thing. God [through His agents on Earth :] has handed down some, "Rules for the Road," to be used as a guide for those times when the The Devil Himself is making quite the case [for less than wonderful acts] in your right ear. The word of God serves as your conscience to guide you through the minefields we must all navigate in every day life.

Those who go it alone are easy pick'ins for the dark side as our resistance to being a bad actor is not so finely developed. And who among us cannot use all the help s/he [it?] can get?

There are also many other reasons that we need God on our side, but chew on this one for a while and remember that God is there for everybody [on their own terms], and that's a deal too good to pass up.

 

Those who claim to speak for God are almost always the dark side.

 

If you are a good person without worshipping God, then I or anyone would have to agree with you because it is true.

 

Nice post. Your last sentence says a lot.

 

They may as well be godless.

 

They are. They just don't know it. And that's a big part of what makes them dangerous.

 

How do you know you're a good person? What defines good and where did you get the definition that defines good?

 

I doubt you've read any of these three books, but before I continue I need to discuss proscription vs. description. Generally, these books will start describing what has happened in the past. Simply describing something does not mean the book proscribes it. Some people believe that if a history writer describes the holocaust and how how 6 million Jews were killed, the writer is telling everyone to kill Jews. This silly, stupid, and moronic logic is commonly used by people on twitter, facebook, and forums like this one. Obviously, describing the Holocaust does not mean that one is proscribing the Holocaust. However, if the same writer then told his readers that Hitler was the epitome of goodness and that everyone should follow his example, then he would be supporting the Holocaust when he described it.

Now, if one reads the Bible, Koran, and Gita, one should clearly understand that they are describing three completely different ideas of what good is.

One of these books considers rape, murder and torture for money, slavery, racism, etc. as good actions which should be emulated since they are done by what the book considers to be the epitome of good.

 

Some of the worst people have god in their life. Case in point…
Report details ‘staggering’ church sex abuse in Maryland
https://apnews.com/article/baltimore-archdiocese-sex-abuse-report-7d5d3af098da59a1c9313a246566638c

 

I've lived amon g people that don't know any Jing of theBibe or the Christian God that live as their ancestors did stretching back thousands of years, does that make them dangerous or devoid of people considered good? Hmm I know when I feel extremely IL, they cared for me and transported me some 300 miles by litter and caoe to the 'white' person''s settlement and clinic... So Dangerous?

 

Reading comprehension check. I didn't write what you seem to think.

Those who claim to speak for God are godless, don't know it, and that's what makes them dangerous.

 

I would agree with that statement.

 

Yeah, I'd argue that this is actually a Biblical position as well. Genesis says that humanity has become like God, knowing good from evil. This implies that there is something more to morality than just God's commands (Divine Command Theory) and that mankind has access to moral knowledge without religion.

 

Compassion and reason are pretty much all you need. Are you a moral nihilist?

 

So what? The buybull is as much a work of fiction as Steven King's 'The Stand' is. Not to say it doesn't have some wisdom in there it does, the idea of loving your neighbor would, if practiced universally, create a society in which government and laws are completely unnecessary. But homo sapiens is not ready for that, at least not yet. Perhaps never.

Some 4,000,000,000 years from now (an amount of time that is so large, especially when compared to our puny 70-100 year lifespans that we can't even truly understand or visualize it), the sun is going to go Red Giant, eat Mercury, Venus, and maybe the Earth, so our species is either going to have to figure out FTL travel, or build a fleet of very large vessels to relocate us to some other planet, even if it takes generations, or we will become extinct.

But that's not our problem in 2023. Or 3023, 4023, or even 10023, which is itself 8,000 years from now. But even that is a blink of an eye compared to 4 Billion.

As for the original topic, my feeling is that if you need a book to know the right thing to do, you have issues. I have been dead, I have visited the other side, and I know that what our religions teach is mostly bullshit. I don't believe, I know. Yet, I still go out of my way to be a nice guy, I tip well, I love my wife (even though we are consensually non-monogamous), take care of my pets like they were human children, have never hurt anyone, and do not want to. I don't need to be afraid that some god that doesn't even exist is going to boil me in oil to induce those behaviors, I just know what is right and wrong. Do no harm is the best three word summary I can think of.